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icepixieSomewhere on the internet, whatever I could say about "School Reunion" has already been said. It's probably been linked to on ![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-community.gif)
who_daily as well. However, because I can't keep my mouth shut...
- ITA with everyone who's been saying that the plot was lacking, but it was made up for in the character interactions.
- Still kind of hate Mickey and hope he dies soon, but "Oh my God, I'm the tin dog!" had me laughing out loud. It may have been schadenfreude.
- David Tennant is beautiful. And a fantastic actor.
- I haven't seen any Sarah-Jane episodes, but wasn't she some kind of ambitious feminist? It struck me as a little weird that she would pine away for thirty years for the Doctor, given what little I know about her; seems to me she would've "had a life of [her] own" already. That doesn't mean I like the "well, there was this one guy...I traveled with him for a while. But he was a tough act to follow" line any less, though, because it's wonderful.
- I've faced the immortal-being-living-way-longer-than-the-puny-humans-they-inevitably-end-up-with thing before. I was a Forever Knight fan, after all, and the Doctor has less than a hundred years on Nick. LaCroix was well over a thousand, IIRC. Plus, y'know, there's Dax from DS9. But this instance of it was done exceptionally well. Having the ability to bring back someone from years past, showing how she's aged while the immortal/alien/whatever hasn't, was certainly helpful. I loved everything about SJ's interaction with the Doctor, and with Rose as well.
I'm not sure if it's my favorite--there are so many to choose from--but certainly what I think of as the most important scene was the one outside the cafe with Rose and the Doctor. It was wonderful. I love that I'm not sure whether to believe the Doctor's "not you," and think that Rose is actually different in some way from the ones who came before, or not. It might have been a lie to make her feel better, after all. Could be.
I've gotten before that Rose and the Doctor aren't going to last (well, unless RTD pulls something very strange when Billie eventually leaves), but this did shed some light on that relationship at a different angle. In my exploration of Old Skool Who, I've become attached to Five/Tegan (oh, shut up; if you know me at all, you know I physically cannot resist that kind of spiteful bickering sort of relationship), Eight/Charley (like whoa), and of course both Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose. However, as you can see even by the structure of that sentence, I've compartmentalized them in my head to a certain extent. There's not really a category for Doctor/any of the girls. This is partially because those are the relationships we've seen onscreen/heard in the audios, naturally, and also because each regeneration of the Doctor is in some ways a different person from the last and of necessity his relationships with his various companions have to change, and what would fly with one incarnation of him won't in another.
But I think this episode did a really good job at showing that it's not that easy to put his relationships with his companions--or even the Doctor himself--into neat little boxes like that. There's too much of the same person in each version of him, too many of the memories from previous incarnations, for it to work like that. And it's certainly made me take a step back and re-evaluate the nature of all three 'ships I'm into, which is a good thing, certainly. I think seeing that the Doctor, even by his tenth incarnation, still cares for Sarah-Jane, companion to his third and fourth selves, adds another layer to the 'ships I do follow, and makes them all the lovelier.
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Also, one comment about Casanova: Wow, that was a depressing ending. After seeing part one, I had no clue it as going to end like that. Meh! *sniffles*
There were many sniffles this weekend, oh yes.
who_daily as well. However, because I can't keep my mouth shut...- ITA with everyone who's been saying that the plot was lacking, but it was made up for in the character interactions.
- Still kind of hate Mickey and hope he dies soon, but "Oh my God, I'm the tin dog!" had me laughing out loud. It may have been schadenfreude.
- David Tennant is beautiful. And a fantastic actor.
- I haven't seen any Sarah-Jane episodes, but wasn't she some kind of ambitious feminist? It struck me as a little weird that she would pine away for thirty years for the Doctor, given what little I know about her; seems to me she would've "had a life of [her] own" already. That doesn't mean I like the "well, there was this one guy...I traveled with him for a while. But he was a tough act to follow" line any less, though, because it's wonderful.
- I've faced the immortal-being-living-way-longer-than-the-puny-humans-they-inevitably-end-up-with thing before. I was a Forever Knight fan, after all, and the Doctor has less than a hundred years on Nick. LaCroix was well over a thousand, IIRC. Plus, y'know, there's Dax from DS9. But this instance of it was done exceptionally well. Having the ability to bring back someone from years past, showing how she's aged while the immortal/alien/whatever hasn't, was certainly helpful. I loved everything about SJ's interaction with the Doctor, and with Rose as well.
I'm not sure if it's my favorite--there are so many to choose from--but certainly what I think of as the most important scene was the one outside the cafe with Rose and the Doctor. It was wonderful. I love that I'm not sure whether to believe the Doctor's "not you," and think that Rose is actually different in some way from the ones who came before, or not. It might have been a lie to make her feel better, after all. Could be.
I've gotten before that Rose and the Doctor aren't going to last (well, unless RTD pulls something very strange when Billie eventually leaves), but this did shed some light on that relationship at a different angle. In my exploration of Old Skool Who, I've become attached to Five/Tegan (oh, shut up; if you know me at all, you know I physically cannot resist that kind of spiteful bickering sort of relationship), Eight/Charley (like whoa), and of course both Nine/Rose and Ten/Rose. However, as you can see even by the structure of that sentence, I've compartmentalized them in my head to a certain extent. There's not really a category for Doctor/any of the girls. This is partially because those are the relationships we've seen onscreen/heard in the audios, naturally, and also because each regeneration of the Doctor is in some ways a different person from the last and of necessity his relationships with his various companions have to change, and what would fly with one incarnation of him won't in another.
But I think this episode did a really good job at showing that it's not that easy to put his relationships with his companions--or even the Doctor himself--into neat little boxes like that. There's too much of the same person in each version of him, too many of the memories from previous incarnations, for it to work like that. And it's certainly made me take a step back and re-evaluate the nature of all three 'ships I'm into, which is a good thing, certainly. I think seeing that the Doctor, even by his tenth incarnation, still cares for Sarah-Jane, companion to his third and fourth selves, adds another layer to the 'ships I do follow, and makes them all the lovelier.
*
Also, one comment about Casanova: Wow, that was a depressing ending. After seeing part one, I had no clue it as going to end like that. Meh! *sniffles*
There were many sniffles this weekend, oh yes.
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Date: 2006-05-02 05:27 am (UTC)Yeah, when she said that I kinda paused, because wow. That is a long time. But I think I can understand that she felt no one/thing else could live up to him and that life.
I love that I'm not sure whether to believe the Doctor's "not you," and think that Rose is actually different in some way from the ones who came before, or not. It might have been a lie to make her feel better, after all. Could be.
(I've seen this idea before and so I've been thinking about it.) Yeah, it could have been a lie. But I really, really would rather not think it was a lie, even if he did it to make her feel better. Because that would be leading her on and an extremely crappy thing to do. She was very vulnerable at that point since having just admitted she thought there was something between them, and if he knew he'd end up leaving her one day, she really deserved the truth so she could have ended it then before it really got bad. The lie, in my mind, is all kinds of ugliness down the road. Naturally they're not going to be together forever and ever, which he hammered home after that, but I really think she'll be the one to walk...or die. (meeep.)
But I think this episode did a really good job at showing that it's not that easy to put his relationships with his companions--or even the Doctor himself--into neat little boxes like that.
Oh yeah. Completely!
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Date: 2006-05-02 11:04 am (UTC)Ah, I really, really like this episode! It's high time the Doctor realised the consequences of what he does when he leaves people behind. And it's interesting, I think, that he hasn't talked about Sarah Jane to Rose, or any of his previous companions, but neither has he talked about his own family or his own children. I guess it all fits in very nicely with his living so long that it's easier to forget.
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Date: 2006-05-02 03:12 pm (UTC)Sarah Jane: She was something of a feminist, but I would say that's been in now way diminished here. She was an investigative journalist, and clearly she still is, and kicking more butt than ever. She might have been pining for the Doctor in ways, but it hasn't ever stopped her work, her crusades to help people. Actually...it's almost a classic tragedy of our society; the feminist who breaks the barriers and does big jobs as good as the boys, but her personal life gets left out in the cold a bit because people don't know how to relate to a non-traditional woman. (Stupid gits. :?P I'd love to hang out with Sarah Jane Smith!)
The Doctor's Age: Y'know the funny thing is that he might actually be well over a thousand as well. See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Doctor_(Doctor_Who)#The_Doctor.27s_age *g*
Rose, different?: I'm not even sure the Doctor knows if she will be. I think he tells himself so now, but that scene smacked to me of a certain amount of denial. He can't let himself think about this. (Also? The line about "you can spend your whole life with me, but I can't spend my whole life with you"? Completely echoes something I wrote years ago in a Doctor/Grace story. One I'm still quite proud of, actually. :?)
The Doctor's relationships: I still think this all goes back to a man who never quite got over the death of his wife. And if she was a Time Lady, but died in one of the ways which precludes regeneration...I imagine losing someone who SHOULD have been able to be with you through all the centuries makes it that much harder to love firefly mortals.
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