Probably should be said though: I'm not trying to convince you of anything here, or expecting that I could. Mostly trying to explain myself...and defend any image I might have in your mind as a guy with half a brain! *snerk*
Pete and Jackie: Is it ridiculous and unrealistic? Sure. But we're talking about a show where people travel throughout time and space. I can buy some romanticism now and then. Heck, it's me...I can buy a lot of romanticism. But I actually think...part of it also depends on your take on psychology. How much of our personality is inborn, and how much is experience? If it's mostly inborn, then Pete and Jackie might not be so different between worlds. And the way I see it...love is ALWAYS rather irrational in some respect, but these two people have a lot of reason to work for it. So I'm hopeful about 'em.
Synth Beat: Whoops. Sorry. Me not wanna make Becca smash!
The Doctor moving on: Can't say I'd call the bride scene the Doctor moving on...he just got a WTF moment. My guess is the Doctor's gonna be mopy-angst for an episode or two...and then we do know he'll move on, 'cause he always does, and the show wouldn get hold if it clung to the angst too long. But I don't think RTD is gonna forget that emotional weight he's built up.
Rose's arc: Obviously I still think Rose is gonna move on...I will believe in the best for a character until shown otherwise. (At which point I will probably grumble and curse and decide to forget the episode ever happen. *Looks at Voyager's Kes, Star Trek Nemesis...*) But as for Rose's arc being short-changed...I think Rose's arc is just different than the one we expected. But still valid. You might not like the tragic version as much, but I enjoyed the melancholy...that's just mileage variance. But where I'm *really* gonna get into trouble here...
I think we DID see the getting over it/moving into a better life arc onscreen. It just didn't belong to Rose...
It was Mickey's. I know, you're not a fan. I loved the guy, though...and his relationship with Rose was very much like Rose's could have been with the Doctor. He hangs on and hangs on and wants forever something that can never really be...but finally he looks around and says, "There's another world out there and it needs me", and he steps up and kicks ass. You might say he was still hung up on Rose when he came back, and from the fact that he was living with the Tylers, but I don't think that's necessarily true. He still cares about Rose, but he's far from the puppy dog he was once, and I think it's anybody's guess if their relationship now is platonic or romantic.
And for me, the little moment in Doomsday where he called the Doctor "boss" was gold. I love how their relationship developed.
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Date: 2006-07-10 05:58 pm (UTC)Probably should be said though: I'm not trying to convince you of anything here, or expecting that I could. Mostly trying to explain myself...and defend any image I might have in your mind as a guy with half a brain! *snerk*
Pete and Jackie: Is it ridiculous and unrealistic? Sure. But we're talking about a show where people travel throughout time and space. I can buy some romanticism now and then. Heck, it's me...I can buy a lot of romanticism. But I actually think...part of it also depends on your take on psychology. How much of our personality is inborn, and how much is experience? If it's mostly inborn, then Pete and Jackie might not be so different between worlds. And the way I see it...love is ALWAYS rather irrational in some respect, but these two people have a lot of reason to work for it. So I'm hopeful about 'em.
Synth Beat: Whoops. Sorry. Me not wanna make Becca smash!
The Doctor moving on: Can't say I'd call the bride scene the Doctor moving on...he just got a WTF moment. My guess is the Doctor's gonna be mopy-angst for an episode or two...and then we do know he'll move on, 'cause he always does, and the show wouldn get hold if it clung to the angst too long. But I don't think RTD is gonna forget that emotional weight he's built up.
Rose's arc: Obviously I still think Rose is gonna move on...I will believe in the best for a character until shown otherwise. (At which point I will probably grumble and curse and decide to forget the episode ever happen. *Looks at Voyager's Kes, Star Trek Nemesis...*) But as for Rose's arc being short-changed...I think Rose's arc is just different than the one we expected. But still valid. You might not like the tragic version as much, but I enjoyed the melancholy...that's just mileage variance. But where I'm *really* gonna get into trouble here...
I think we DID see the getting over it/moving into a better life arc onscreen. It just didn't belong to Rose...
It was Mickey's. I know, you're not a fan. I loved the guy, though...and his relationship with Rose was very much like Rose's could have been with the Doctor. He hangs on and hangs on and wants forever something that can never really be...but finally he looks around and says, "There's another world out there and it needs me", and he steps up and kicks ass. You might say he was still hung up on Rose when he came back, and from the fact that he was living with the Tylers, but I don't think that's necessarily true. He still cares about Rose, but he's far from the puppy dog he was once, and I think it's anybody's guess if their relationship now is platonic or romantic.
And for me, the little moment in Doomsday where he called the Doctor "boss" was gold. I love how their relationship developed.
*Goes into hiding* :?P