Oh. Um. I missed that too. Der. Well, I got vague hints, but never realized it was "the issue."
I figured that the fic writers who kept having Oliver moon over Geoffrey were just reading way more into the text than I was. Apparently not.
We can be dense together!
Yay! *makes fudge in honor of denseness*
Okay, even I picked up on the Cyril and Frank thing. We can no longer be dense buddies, sorry.
Meeeeeh. For some reason, my brain just decided, "Aw, look at the two gay oldsters! They're best friends!" And then around 2x05, I realized there was more to it than that.
(Heh, "sooooorry"! EH?? I could totally be Canadian.)
Oh, absolutely.
I do love Anna. Especially when she tells people they're idiots. She should do that more often.
Anna is the smartest, most with-it character ont he show. She should be in charge. She kind of already is in charge, really.
I've got all of S3 (I think - haven't tested the downloaded stuff yet), but I got distracted today and haven't watched it. Tomorrow!
Ajdkl;sd. Bring kleenex for the last episode. You will want it. Oh, and the copy of 3x05 I grabbed is really, really blippy, so be prepared for that.
You win at crack-fairy-ness. Gold star for you!
*wears gold star proudly*
(Also, I watched that Shakespeare ep of Moonlighting - did I tell you yet? - and it was cracktastic.
No, you didn't tell me. Isn't it the most amusingly cracktastic thing ever?
But was that the original Shakespearean ending? Seemed a bit progressive for Wild Bill.)
Uh, no. The original ending is...problematic, and open to interpretation. In Act Four, Kate actually ends up agreeing, out of desperation, that the sun is the moon and vice versa, along with other crazy things Petruchio makes her do. (See, she's starving. Literally, P won't let her eat. Or sleep. He's actually been torturing her for a whole act. It's more than a bit creepy.) At the wedding in Act Five, Petruchio makes a bet with Lucentio over which of their wives will appear first when called. Bianca has apparently discovered feminism, and sends word that she has better things to do. Kate actually shows up, ends up dragging the other women with her, and makes a big speech about how women should obey their husbands in all things. Then she puts her hand under Petruchio's foot as a sign of obedience. And...that's it. It's not clear if she's pretending so that Petruchio will get his dowry (which he keeps in the original version) or so she won't get hassled anymore about being tamed or whatever other motive, and sometimes it's played with big winks to the audience and such.
It's weird that the ending is so misogynistic, because in the Atomic Shakespeare scene where Maddie and David are "courting," a lot of the dialogue is taken straight from the play, and Kate and Petruchio are obviously on fairly equal footing then. It's further complicated by the fact that the story in Padua is actually a play-within-a-play, which is shown to a beggar named Christopher Sly, who is pretending, badly, to be a king. There's an intro about how the world is currently topsy-turvy (re: Sly), and so they'll do a topsy-turvy play--there's a lot of stuff in the original where Lucentio plays Cambio who plays Grumio etc., classic Shakespearian mistaken identity stuff--and the little tag with them at the end reiterates this. So maybe it's meant to be a satire? God only knows what the actual intent was.
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Date: 2007-01-28 07:13 am (UTC)Oh. Um. I missed that too. Der. Well, I got vague hints, but never realized it was "the issue."
I figured that the fic writers who kept having Oliver moon over Geoffrey were just reading way more into the text than I was. Apparently not.
We can be dense together!
Yay! *makes fudge in honor of denseness*
Okay, even I picked up on the Cyril and Frank thing. We can no longer be dense buddies, sorry.
Meeeeeh. For some reason, my brain just decided, "Aw, look at the two gay oldsters! They're best friends!" And then around 2x05, I realized there was more to it than that.
(Heh, "sooooorry"! EH?? I could totally be Canadian.)
Oh, absolutely.
I do love Anna. Especially when she tells people they're idiots. She should do that more often.
Anna is the smartest, most with-it character ont he show. She should be in charge. She kind of already is in charge, really.
I've got all of S3 (I think - haven't tested the downloaded stuff yet), but I got distracted today and haven't watched it. Tomorrow!
Ajdkl;sd. Bring kleenex for the last episode. You will want it. Oh, and the copy of 3x05 I grabbed is really, really blippy, so be prepared for that.
You win at crack-fairy-ness. Gold star for you!
*wears gold star proudly*
(Also, I watched that Shakespeare ep of Moonlighting - did I tell you yet? - and it was cracktastic.
No, you didn't tell me. Isn't it the most amusingly cracktastic thing ever?
But was that the original Shakespearean ending? Seemed a bit progressive for Wild Bill.)
Uh, no. The original ending is...problematic, and open to interpretation. In Act Four, Kate actually ends up agreeing, out of desperation, that the sun is the moon and vice versa, along with other crazy things Petruchio makes her do. (See, she's starving. Literally, P won't let her eat. Or sleep. He's actually been torturing her for a whole act. It's more than a bit creepy.) At the wedding in Act Five, Petruchio makes a bet with Lucentio over which of their wives will appear first when called. Bianca has apparently discovered feminism, and sends word that she has better things to do. Kate actually shows up, ends up dragging the other women with her, and makes a big speech about how women should obey their husbands in all things. Then she puts her hand under Petruchio's foot as a sign of obedience. And...that's it. It's not clear if she's pretending so that Petruchio will get his dowry (which he keeps in the original version) or so she won't get hassled anymore about being tamed or whatever other motive, and sometimes it's played with big winks to the audience and such.
It's weird that the ending is so misogynistic, because in the Atomic Shakespeare scene where Maddie and David are "courting," a lot of the dialogue is taken straight from the play, and Kate and Petruchio are obviously on fairly equal footing then. It's further complicated by the fact that the story in Padua is actually a play-within-a-play, which is shown to a beggar named Christopher Sly, who is pretending, badly, to be a king. There's an intro about how the world is currently topsy-turvy (re: Sly), and so they'll do a topsy-turvy play--there's a lot of stuff in the original where Lucentio plays Cambio who plays Grumio etc., classic Shakespearian mistaken identity stuff--and the little tag with them at the end reiterates this. So maybe it's meant to be a satire? God only knows what the actual intent was.
I much prefer Moonlighting's ending. *g*