It seems pretty clear to me that Morden killed Adira. That's why he asked the shopkeeper about the arrangements Vir made at the beginning of the episode. He blamed it on Refa to give Londo a target for his anger and to ensure that Londo would come back into the Shadow fold. I doubt that Refa knew anything about it, but since I haven't got to his next episode yet, I could be wrong about that part.
I think the show eventually came down on Morden killing her. I just remember it being confusing that episode, although now I'm not sure why.
That threw me, too, but I figured maybe the station designation stayed the same even though it wasn't technically part of the alliance anymore?
I think JMS might have done some covering about Ivanova slipping in the heat of the moment or something. Which makes sense, but I still found it a bit sloppy, particularly coming at the beginning of the episode, where savvy genre fans like myself will be most expectant of clues to indicate alternate universes or other hinky things.
So? You know they win, but you don't know how. It's a great way to build tension and interest in your story. As my first adviser put it, "We know how the movie ends, but we go to see Titanic anyway." The suspense now is in finding out how they did it, especially since there's still plenty of room for doubt about any progress in the "present" timeline.
*shrug* I still found it kind of silly. Reading JMS's little self-congratulatory, "Teehee, Sheridan's and Delenn's first kiss with each other doesn't happen at the same time!" thing at the Lurker's Guide afterward just made it all the moreso. (This was about the point where I stopped reading his comments at the guide, 'cause more often than not the tone just irritated me.) And if I'd been watching in real time, I'm not sure if I would've been PISSED that the surprise had been taken away (because I don't think would have known, if I were unspoiled, whether to bet on an ending where they win or where the Shadows win) or I would've fallen back on my previous genre experience and thought, "aha, we saw the future, but it's not the REAL future" and continued on wondering how it would end. (Especially since a few scenes later it was Delenn in the blue suit where B2ed had Sinclair, or however that worked, and I would've wondered if they had changed the future by not recreating events from B2ed.)
I guess I can see the argument about going to see Titantic even knowing the ending, but I just didn't think this one was done well. Like, for example, hearing that G'Kar was going to murder Londo way back in the first episode, you think, ah, this will be because they obviously hate each other. Turns out it's a mercy killing. That subverts my expectations, and I can see why you would want to show the future for that. But Delenn and Sheridan getting married and having a kid...seems like a foregone conclusion. And then JMS set up the expectation of winning the war, but didn't set up anything to subvert--they go on and win the war, big whoop. I would've understood the reasoning more if it had been like the G'Kar/Londo thing, where the context was radically different than what was implied by the flashforward.
It's a Keeper. I remember them as being distinct from the Drakh, since there are Drakh that walk on two legs like a human. I'm fuzzy on that, though, so I could be wrong.
I believe they turned out to be distinct from the Drakh, but I'm not sure that it was ever really explained very thoroughly.
Now you've seen the whole series, this may make more sense to you
It did make much more sense to me once I saw SiL and found that Sheridan had taken over as An'la'shok after Delenn (and thus after Sinclair). The past/present/future thing made more sense as well.
Peter Jurasik chose a generic Eastern European accent.
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Date: 2009-07-28 06:08 pm (UTC)I think the show eventually came down on Morden killing her. I just remember it being confusing that episode, although now I'm not sure why.
That threw me, too, but I figured maybe the station designation stayed the same even though it wasn't technically part of the alliance anymore?
I think JMS might have done some covering about Ivanova slipping in the heat of the moment or something. Which makes sense, but I still found it a bit sloppy, particularly coming at the beginning of the episode, where savvy genre fans like myself will be most expectant of clues to indicate alternate universes or other hinky things.
So? You know they win, but you don't know how. It's a great way to build tension and interest in your story. As my first adviser put it, "We know how the movie ends, but we go to see Titanic anyway." The suspense now is in finding out how they did it, especially since there's still plenty of room for doubt about any progress in the "present" timeline.
*shrug* I still found it kind of silly. Reading JMS's little self-congratulatory, "Teehee, Sheridan's and Delenn's first kiss with each other doesn't happen at the same time!" thing at the Lurker's Guide afterward just made it all the moreso. (This was about the point where I stopped reading his comments at the guide, 'cause more often than not the tone just irritated me.) And if I'd been watching in real time, I'm not sure if I would've been PISSED that the surprise had been taken away (because I don't think would have known, if I were unspoiled, whether to bet on an ending where they win or where the Shadows win) or I would've fallen back on my previous genre experience and thought, "aha, we saw the future, but it's not the REAL future" and continued on wondering how it would end. (Especially since a few scenes later it was Delenn in the blue suit where B2ed had Sinclair, or however that worked, and I would've wondered if they had changed the future by not recreating events from B2ed.)
I guess I can see the argument about going to see Titantic even knowing the ending, but I just didn't think this one was done well. Like, for example, hearing that G'Kar was going to murder Londo way back in the first episode, you think, ah, this will be because they obviously hate each other. Turns out it's a mercy killing. That subverts my expectations, and I can see why you would want to show the future for that. But Delenn and Sheridan getting married and having a kid...seems like a foregone conclusion. And then JMS set up the expectation of winning the war, but didn't set up anything to subvert--they go on and win the war, big whoop. I would've understood the reasoning more if it had been like the G'Kar/Londo thing, where the context was radically different than what was implied by the flashforward.
It's a Keeper. I remember them as being distinct from the Drakh, since there are Drakh that walk on two legs like a human. I'm fuzzy on that, though, so I could be wrong.
I believe they turned out to be distinct from the Drakh, but I'm not sure that it was ever really explained very thoroughly.
Now you've seen the whole series, this may make more sense to you
It did make much more sense to me once I saw SiL and found that Sheridan had taken over as An'la'shok after Delenn (and thus after Sinclair). The past/present/future thing made more sense as well.
Peter Jurasik chose a generic Eastern European accent.
Huh.