Date: 2009-04-19 02:26 am (UTC)
I think we do basically agree. I don't think there's any question that some sort of thought has to come first, it's just that that level isn't going to get you much further than a grunt would have. The two are so closely intertwined in any case that it's hard to separate, which is the point of what Lorien says, IMHO. And you're right, I take it literally, but not as literally as you did.

I have done this (the articles). It sucks.

Yup. Though the lack of verb tenses (Thai) is the one that blew my mind. (And for the record, my kids have to take the TOEFL for admission, too.)
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