B5: Season 4, Episodes 13-16
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icepixieRumors, Bargains, and Lies
- Er...is Sheridan starting to go crazy?
- Eeek, civil war. :(
- Wow. After watching FOTR again, Minbar really looks like Rivendell now.
- HA! Londo hates country music! He has good taste!
- Don't hate me, but...I'm totally shipping Delenn/Neroon right now. Really, really hard.
- So have the Drazi stopped the whole macro-speak thing from their first appearance? Maybe it's just during wartime that they do that sort of thing.
- Poor, befuddled Susan. Um, Sheridan, you could be more forthcoming with information and reasoning and whatnot. (I felt like this for...most of these episodes. Is this a new plot arc that will eventually come to a head?)
- Oooh, Sheridan is playing the League folks like assorted stringed instruments. (I...um. His paternalism is making me the tiniest bit uncomfortable, actually. Am I alone here? I mean, I know it's for a good cause, and he's only misdirecting and not lying, and on the whole it's a pretty good strategy, but...it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think Delenn would've gotten on his case about it. Ahhhh, this is why she went away, isn't it? Haha, good one, JMS.Even if it still makes me uncomfortable.)
- And here, I totally thought Lennier had told Delenn about the religious caste's plot to kill everyone on the ship, and she was basically doing the same thing as John--playing them, knowing what they had planned. Except...she didn't? So she actually believed that the religious caste wouldn't turn on their leader? Um. Shortsighted, much?
- Noooo! Lennier!
- And now I'm back to shipping Delenn/Lennier. Sigh. I'm so fickle. Maybe they should have a threesome with Neroon.
- So, how much intergalactic power does the League of Non-Aligned Worlds have now, anyway? I get the impression that they can't match the Centauri or perhaps even the Narn, but are they equal with the humans? Minbari? Hell, I'll have to make another flow chart for this season. Bah.
- Hmmm. Lennier, while I think you're sweet for wanting to protect Delenn's innocence, uh...first, she's not as innocent as you think she is, I'm pretty sure. (I'm wavering over whether she in fact knew about the plot or not. I think it's conceivable that she figured it out from what Lennier didn't say, but I'm not totally sure.) Second, Delenn would probably want to see clearly. Shouldn't you help her with that? (Argh! More paternalism! That must have been the theme of this episode.)
- OH! NEROON! YOU BASTARD! I LIKED YOU, DAMMIT!
Moments of Transition
- Oh, it is a bad time to be Lyta. :(
- Hmm. How did the lady interviewing Lyta get to be on B5, anyway? Isn't travel from Earth-loyal places to B5 banned now?
- Haha, Bester has a life that doesn't involve B5. Riiiight.
- "I want your body." *sporfle*
- Oh, Bester, that's a terrible joke about telepaths being out of their minds. TERRIBLE.
- Hmmm. Garibaldi is watching Bester very carefully. COULD IT BE BECAUSE BESTER IS BEHIND GARIBALDI'S ALTERNATE PERSONALITY?
- I have "uh-oh" written down, but I don't know why.
- Awww. Zack/Lyta is my new favorite ship. So cute.
- Awww, he just wants Garibaldi to find his cat and dog! *cuddles crazy man*
- Uh. Why is Garibaldi "no longer worth my [Bester's] attention"? Crap. Keee-rap. This can't be good.
- Hah, Zack finds Bester! Zack is coming into his own this season. I approve.
- Hmmm. So where is the worker caste in all this civil war madness? Aren't they they largest of the three castes? (I guess they'd have to be, since they do all the work! *ba-dum-ching*)
- Mmm. Delenn is splitting hairs atomically fine with her definition of "surrender."
- ...Is Delenn going to be reborn in that starfire thing (which I so did not understand. Someone had to die? Or surrender? Or something? I was so confused) and thus become more like Sheridan?
- Wait...were Delenn and Neroon in on this thing together from the start? Or did he just have a change of heart? Eh?
- *still totally shipping Delenn/Neroon*
- Can you even switch castes in this society? Well, I guess it doesn't matter for Neroon, since he's dead now. Dammit! I liked him! And I think possibly he never actually betrayed Delenn! Right? Was there a plot between them?
- Aw, Delenn has a bad sunburn.
- Did Garibaldi just say "frak"? It sure sounded like he did.
- Michael, say no to Edgars! Awww. Should've said no.
- Hmmm. Are Bester and Edgars working together somehow to get Garibaldi to fire Lyta?
- Oh, Lyta. *hugs her*
- Delenn is the new Valen, isn't she?
- Heh, the meek shall inherit the Gray Council. And this answers my question about the worker caste! Excellent!
- "The one who is to come"? Uh...is this going to be a certain someone called David Sheridan?
- "...as soon as I calm down." *snerk*
- Not that I don't think it's a good idea to strike Earth now, but...won't they be fighting a war on about three different fronts now? (Earth, Drakh, various other Shadow allies?)
No Surrender, No Retreat
- Yay, the newsroom is the war room again! (I gotta admit, while I like the idea of the Voice of the Resistance, I think we see too much of it.)
- Whoa, Susan's hair. Did she shellac it to the back of her head? That's some mondo hairspray holding that thing in place.
- Heh, there's a price tag.
- Ohhh, please stop with the swirly!cam. I hate the swirly!cam wherever it's used. I don't like needing dramamine for my TV shows.
- Yay G'Kar!
- Hmmm. At this point, shouldn't there be another world for "humanitarian"? Sentientarian, perhaps?
- DUN DUN DUN!
- Oh, Vir. So loyal.
- Man, Michael needs to lose this alternate personality fast. He's pissing me off.
- "Trust Ivanova. Trust yourself. Everyone else--shoot 'em." And then Corwin and the other dude in the war room eyed each other all suspiciously. Bwah!
- "Dry, red, and depressing." *snerk*
- Londo and G'Kar are a bit of a microcosm of "All of this has happened before, etc. etc.," aren't they? (BTW...was RDM a fan of this show? Or did the phrase come from BSG 1.0? Because man, it fits this one to a tee.)
- Oooh, the Army of Light or the Liberation Army or whatever they're calling themselves these days gets Centauri support!
- ...Does Londo actually have any friends besides Vir? Who isn't really his friend? At least he knows he's screwed things up...
- Oh. This is calling back to that incredibly painful moment of dramatic irony from "The Coming of Shadows," isn't it? And G'Kar has learned his lesson. :(
- Sheridan convinced Ivanova to stay behind? Was there blood involved?
- The EarthForce destroyers look kind of like praying mantises. The fronts of the ships look kind of like mantis heads.
- That battle must have been painful for everyone.
- Yay, Heracles XO!
- Hmmm. Good question. Who is going to run Earth when Clark is removed, if he's filled the government with his cronies? How will they know whom to trust? Is Sheridan in fact going to turn dictator until they can get an election up? (Surely not...)
- Oh, G'Kar. Did you and Londo just make up as much as you're ever going to make up?
Exercise of Vital Powers
...This may have just beat out "The Coming of Shadows" for Most Incredibly Painful Episode. I cried at the end. Oh, Michael.
- That journal entry kind of sounds like narration from a hardboiled detective novel. Heh.
- Oh, lord. Wade is a Derridaist. Fabulous.
- Yep, Lyta and Zack are still adorable.
- OMG, he shot the telepath. DUDE. That was cold.
- So I assume this anti-telepath mania Garibaldi and Edgars are engaging in is supposed to be reminiscent of Clark's xenophobia, yes? Humans are so very good at othering.
- "We let them [the people] think they still have a voice." I KNEW I WAS RIGHT NOT TO TRUST EDGARS. HE IS REALLY FREAKING CREEPY. (Oh, Garibaldi. Please, please tell me you might be just playing him in order to knock him down? Maybe?)
- Oh, dear. What is Sheridan going to do with those telepaths? And why has it made Franklin so upset? Is Sheridan eventually going to warrant some of Garibaldi's reservations? *worries*
- *grimaces at Lise/Garibaldi*
- OMG. Telepath genocide. OMG. Um, I guess Edgars and Bester weren't working together? OMG.
- When Garibaldi gave away that information about Sheridan's father--that was what got to me. Oh, Michael. You--or rather, I assume, your alternate personality (which, BTW, pleasepleaseplease let that be what this is--surely that scene back in "Epiphanies" with the screen full of gibberish had to be a clue)--wasn't playing Edgars, I guess. But...why would Bester have programmed him to do this? Is he going to be reporting back to PsiCorps? Hmmm. That would make sense. Assuming Bester programmed him at all--but I'm pretty sure he did... (This would be another good candidate for a flow chart!)
- Er...is Sheridan starting to go crazy?
- Eeek, civil war. :(
- Wow. After watching FOTR again, Minbar really looks like Rivendell now.
- HA! Londo hates country music! He has good taste!
- Don't hate me, but...I'm totally shipping Delenn/Neroon right now. Really, really hard.
- So have the Drazi stopped the whole macro-speak thing from their first appearance? Maybe it's just during wartime that they do that sort of thing.
- Poor, befuddled Susan. Um, Sheridan, you could be more forthcoming with information and reasoning and whatnot. (I felt like this for...most of these episodes. Is this a new plot arc that will eventually come to a head?)
- Oooh, Sheridan is playing the League folks like assorted stringed instruments. (I...um. His paternalism is making me the tiniest bit uncomfortable, actually. Am I alone here? I mean, I know it's for a good cause, and he's only misdirecting and not lying, and on the whole it's a pretty good strategy, but...it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I think Delenn would've gotten on his case about it. Ahhhh, this is why she went away, isn't it? Haha, good one, JMS.
- And here, I totally thought Lennier had told Delenn about the religious caste's plot to kill everyone on the ship, and she was basically doing the same thing as John--playing them, knowing what they had planned. Except...she didn't? So she actually believed that the religious caste wouldn't turn on their leader? Um. Shortsighted, much?
- Noooo! Lennier!
- And now I'm back to shipping Delenn/Lennier. Sigh. I'm so fickle. Maybe they should have a threesome with Neroon.
- So, how much intergalactic power does the League of Non-Aligned Worlds have now, anyway? I get the impression that they can't match the Centauri or perhaps even the Narn, but are they equal with the humans? Minbari? Hell, I'll have to make another flow chart for this season. Bah.
- Hmmm. Lennier, while I think you're sweet for wanting to protect Delenn's innocence, uh...first, she's not as innocent as you think she is, I'm pretty sure. (I'm wavering over whether she in fact knew about the plot or not. I think it's conceivable that she figured it out from what Lennier didn't say, but I'm not totally sure.) Second, Delenn would probably want to see clearly. Shouldn't you help her with that? (Argh! More paternalism! That must have been the theme of this episode.)
- OH! NEROON! YOU BASTARD! I LIKED YOU, DAMMIT!
Moments of Transition
- Oh, it is a bad time to be Lyta. :(
- Hmm. How did the lady interviewing Lyta get to be on B5, anyway? Isn't travel from Earth-loyal places to B5 banned now?
- Haha, Bester has a life that doesn't involve B5. Riiiight.
- "I want your body." *sporfle*
- Oh, Bester, that's a terrible joke about telepaths being out of their minds. TERRIBLE.
- Hmmm. Garibaldi is watching Bester very carefully. COULD IT BE BECAUSE BESTER IS BEHIND GARIBALDI'S ALTERNATE PERSONALITY?
- I have "uh-oh" written down, but I don't know why.
- Awww. Zack/Lyta is my new favorite ship. So cute.
- Awww, he just wants Garibaldi to find his cat and dog! *cuddles crazy man*
- Uh. Why is Garibaldi "no longer worth my [Bester's] attention"? Crap. Keee-rap. This can't be good.
- Hah, Zack finds Bester! Zack is coming into his own this season. I approve.
- Hmmm. So where is the worker caste in all this civil war madness? Aren't they they largest of the three castes? (I guess they'd have to be, since they do all the work! *ba-dum-ching*)
- Mmm. Delenn is splitting hairs atomically fine with her definition of "surrender."
- ...Is Delenn going to be reborn in that starfire thing (which I so did not understand. Someone had to die? Or surrender? Or something? I was so confused) and thus become more like Sheridan?
- Wait...were Delenn and Neroon in on this thing together from the start? Or did he just have a change of heart? Eh?
- *still totally shipping Delenn/Neroon*
- Can you even switch castes in this society? Well, I guess it doesn't matter for Neroon, since he's dead now. Dammit! I liked him! And I think possibly he never actually betrayed Delenn! Right? Was there a plot between them?
- Aw, Delenn has a bad sunburn.
- Did Garibaldi just say "frak"? It sure sounded like he did.
- Michael, say no to Edgars! Awww. Should've said no.
- Hmmm. Are Bester and Edgars working together somehow to get Garibaldi to fire Lyta?
- Oh, Lyta. *hugs her*
- Delenn is the new Valen, isn't she?
- Heh, the meek shall inherit the Gray Council. And this answers my question about the worker caste! Excellent!
- "The one who is to come"? Uh...is this going to be a certain someone called David Sheridan?
- "...as soon as I calm down." *snerk*
- Not that I don't think it's a good idea to strike Earth now, but...won't they be fighting a war on about three different fronts now? (Earth, Drakh, various other Shadow allies?)
No Surrender, No Retreat
- Yay, the newsroom is the war room again! (I gotta admit, while I like the idea of the Voice of the Resistance, I think we see too much of it.)
- Whoa, Susan's hair. Did she shellac it to the back of her head? That's some mondo hairspray holding that thing in place.
- Heh, there's a price tag.
- Ohhh, please stop with the swirly!cam. I hate the swirly!cam wherever it's used. I don't like needing dramamine for my TV shows.
- Yay G'Kar!
- Hmmm. At this point, shouldn't there be another world for "humanitarian"? Sentientarian, perhaps?
- DUN DUN DUN!
- Oh, Vir. So loyal.
- Man, Michael needs to lose this alternate personality fast. He's pissing me off.
- "Trust Ivanova. Trust yourself. Everyone else--shoot 'em." And then Corwin and the other dude in the war room eyed each other all suspiciously. Bwah!
- "Dry, red, and depressing." *snerk*
- Londo and G'Kar are a bit of a microcosm of "All of this has happened before, etc. etc.," aren't they? (BTW...was RDM a fan of this show? Or did the phrase come from BSG 1.0? Because man, it fits this one to a tee.)
- Oooh, the Army of Light or the Liberation Army or whatever they're calling themselves these days gets Centauri support!
- ...Does Londo actually have any friends besides Vir? Who isn't really his friend? At least he knows he's screwed things up...
- Oh. This is calling back to that incredibly painful moment of dramatic irony from "The Coming of Shadows," isn't it? And G'Kar has learned his lesson. :(
- Sheridan convinced Ivanova to stay behind? Was there blood involved?
- The EarthForce destroyers look kind of like praying mantises. The fronts of the ships look kind of like mantis heads.
- That battle must have been painful for everyone.
- Yay, Heracles XO!
- Hmmm. Good question. Who is going to run Earth when Clark is removed, if he's filled the government with his cronies? How will they know whom to trust? Is Sheridan in fact going to turn dictator until they can get an election up? (Surely not...)
- Oh, G'Kar. Did you and Londo just make up as much as you're ever going to make up?
Exercise of Vital Powers
...This may have just beat out "The Coming of Shadows" for Most Incredibly Painful Episode. I cried at the end. Oh, Michael.
- That journal entry kind of sounds like narration from a hardboiled detective novel. Heh.
- Oh, lord. Wade is a Derridaist. Fabulous.
- Yep, Lyta and Zack are still adorable.
- OMG, he shot the telepath. DUDE. That was cold.
- So I assume this anti-telepath mania Garibaldi and Edgars are engaging in is supposed to be reminiscent of Clark's xenophobia, yes? Humans are so very good at othering.
- "We let them [the people] think they still have a voice." I KNEW I WAS RIGHT NOT TO TRUST EDGARS. HE IS REALLY FREAKING CREEPY. (Oh, Garibaldi. Please, please tell me you might be just playing him in order to knock him down? Maybe?)
- Oh, dear. What is Sheridan going to do with those telepaths? And why has it made Franklin so upset? Is Sheridan eventually going to warrant some of Garibaldi's reservations? *worries*
- *grimaces at Lise/Garibaldi*
- OMG. Telepath genocide. OMG. Um, I guess Edgars and Bester weren't working together? OMG.
- When Garibaldi gave away that information about Sheridan's father--that was what got to me. Oh, Michael. You--or rather, I assume, your alternate personality (which, BTW, pleasepleaseplease let that be what this is--surely that scene back in "Epiphanies" with the screen full of gibberish had to be a clue)--wasn't playing Edgars, I guess. But...why would Bester have programmed him to do this? Is he going to be reporting back to PsiCorps? Hmmm. That would make sense. Assuming Bester programmed him at all--but I'm pretty sure he did... (This would be another good candidate for a flow chart!)