B5: Season 5, Episodes 17-21
Jun. 10th, 2009 11:26 pmMovements of Fire and Shadow
- Hey, is that a ship that looks an awful lot like Serenity? Perhaps it's a Drazi ship? It just needs an engine lighting up its butt to be a Firefly-class vessel...
- Oooh, unlucky Lochley gets saddled with the exposition about the jumpgates.
- THINGS I DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT SHERIDAN AND DELENN'S SEX LIFE, EXHIBIT A.
- Heh, it may even be deductible.
- Are the aliens in Londo's experience/nightmare like evil versions of Lorien's race? They have the same creepily long fingers...
- Huh. Londo asks the aliens both "Who are you" and "What do you want [with me]." Interesting.
- Soooo not the point of this alliance thing, guys.
- Is there a reason they can't just have a damn Supreme Commander of Alliance Forces or something like that? It worked for the Allies in WWII.
- Moving the jumpgate was cool. And *whew* to making it through with minimal damage, although somehow I don't think that will hold true for the rest of the episodes.
- Insurrection! Uh-oh!
- ...okay, someone point me to the Franklin/Lyta fic, because them bickering over the map pretty much made my day.
- DUDE. Lyta. Whoa.
- I love how Lennier has totally taken on human expressions ("Trouble," etc.). Hee.
- Eeeek, Shadow-ship screaming in Lyta's head!
- Aha, the Centauri strategy begins to make sense.
- Ohhh, Delenn and Lennier, you're so screwed. Surely some good samaritan in a spaceship will be by to give you a lift?
- Of course, your screwedness is NOTHING compared to what the CENTAURI are about to go through. HOLY CRAP.
The Fall of Centauri Prime
- Today is a very bad day to be Sheridan.
- Heh, the Drakh are so postcolonial.
- Eeek, they remembered Londo from the Shadow war.
- Dude, the Centauri need some parliamentary and/or constitutional action, stat. This whole authoritarian monarch thing just not practical over an interstellar empire.
- Londo, RUN!
- "Yes, but I am a better person." *snerk*
- Awww, but Londo and G'Kar can'tbreak up never see each other again! They need to...I dunno...go into business together or something. They could run a combination bookstore/liquor store. I'm sure you know who would run each portion.
- Oh, Londo--all the power, none of the choice.
- G'Kar forgives him. *sniff*
- DON'T DO IT, LONDO!
- Oh, the Centauri aren't in the Alliance anymore. :(
- Ohhh, Lennier. *hugs him* And now he has to live with having said that. Whoops!
- BWAHAHAHAHA, nice save, Delenn.
- SIGH. *totally thinks Delenn should dump Sheridan and run off with Lennier* *okay, not totally. but definitely partially.*
- "You could always board up the windows." Oh, Vir.
- Uhhh...despite the earlier parallels with WWII and the formation of the UN, are the Centauri now the Germans after the Treaty of Versailles ended WWI?
- Did Delenn say something to Londo in a past season about him having darkness all around him? Or was that someone else? Poor, poor Londo.
- I wasn't a fan of the montage from earlier seasons--something about montages on this show always bugs me--but the bells were a nice, mournful touch.
- Heh, the Shadows were the USSR. And why does Franklin so often get stuck as JMS's mouthpiece for philosophizing?
- Hmmm. A million years before we're ready to go to the Vorlon homeworld. I suppose that's the "New Earth" spoken of in "Deconstruction"?
- Londo. :(
The Wheel of Fire
- Haha. Poor, adored G'Kar.
- Oh, Michael.
- Uh, yeah. Everyone suspected. It was pretty obvious you were drinking.
- OOOOH, the disappointment! So much worse than anger.
- Oh, dear. More Psi Corps attacks.
- Oh, Lyta.
- I'm glad they found a way to pull in Lochley's prior experience with addiction there. I'd actually been kind of wondering where she was in the past few episodes; she doesn't seem to get much screentime.
- Awww, Zack has to take Lyta down. :(
- Well, she does kind of have a point about the gratitude everyone owes her. Perhaps taking over the minds of everyone in the Zocalo is not really the way to go about proving that point...
- "You cannot stop someone who's been touched by Vorlons!" *sporfle* I felt like she should've ripped her shirt off to reveal a spandex suit with a big "V" on it or something right there.
- Oh, let me guess, Delenn is pregnant. [five minutes later] Yep. How did I know?
- "What camera?" Heh.
- Dude, Lyta should work on Wall Street.
- Bwahaha, G'kar doesn't want to be an image. He should TOTALLY talk to Eavan Boland. They could write poetry together. < /thesis in-joke >
- I would've totally watched another series chronicling the adventures of G'Kar and Lyta on their voyage of exploration.
- Perhaps Lyta should be a POLITICIAN. She drives a damn hard bargain.
- Ack, glowy Vorlon eyes!
Objects in Motion
- Number One! I never thought we'd be seeing her again!
- ...is Lyta in a straightjacket?
- Heh, Zack totally sounds like Garibaldi at his most paranoid.
- Aww, the poor acolyte. Let me guess, he tries to kill G'Kar later in the episode.
- Yep.
- Uhh...240 light-years means its basically new. It's nearly eleven from Earth to B5 alone.
- See, see? The station IS full of ghosts! G'Kar even says so!
- That poor nurse.
- "Besides, I started to like them [the handcuffs]." Eep.
- Awwww. Zack is watching Lyta go and pining! Oh, Zack! Oh, you are so sweet! Why is there not more Zack/Lyta fic out there?
- Ooooh, Garibaldi is crafty.
- And Number One gets a new job!
- "When they built this station, irony was one of the primary materials of construction." Heh.
- Uh...won't Number One actually be on Minbar once the Alliance government moves there? Why would she be staying on B5?
- Way to drag out everyone leaving. I know it would be less realistic, but I kind of wish they'd kept all the goodbyes to one short stretch of one episode, instead of dragging it out over four or five of them. (Mostly because each of these episodes has made me all teary at at least one point. Argh! Now I'm really glad I watched SiL before, because seeing it after this run might've ended me.)
- Garibaldi, you couldn't have mentioned Ivanova's name in your little family? *sadface*
- Aw, Sheridan and Delenn are walking the length of the station. I still don't exactly ship them, but this season has made me more appreciative of them together.
Objects at Rest
- Ta'Lon! Aw, he gets promoted just like Vir!
- I wasn't totally sold on the whole G'Kar-and-Ta'Lon-talking-side-by-side thing, but then I remembered what G'Kar said about ghosts on the station in the last episode, and it makes more sense seen through that lens.
- Lennier!
- Wait, why the hell is Number One staying on B5?
- THANK YOU, Lochley, for asking that very excellent question! As for the answer...well, okay, I guess. I kind of feel like in the real world, the the head of covert ops would be at the capital, leaving B5 for a high-level operative, but whatever.
- BWAH! Of course Garibaldi promotes all the troublemakers.
- Hmmm. Wonder if the other aliens have lots and lots of languages...
- Awww, the Minbari don't have a word for goodbye. I like their language.
- And Zack is there when they turn off the lights, just like he says.
- Oof. Can I get some dramamine for that swoopy bit where they match rotation?
- Oh. That's such a nice shot, with all the new people in the observation deck window, and Lochley and Sheridan saluting each other. Really sad, though. :(
- WHAT?!?! Okay, this episode was just STRICKEN FROM MY PERSONAL CANON. In my universe, Lennier did NOT just do that! I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS DEVELOPMENT!
- Well, okay, maybe I'll just strike that part, because I did like what came before and after. Like Londo! Poor Londo who wants a drink.
- Oooh. Delenn can hear the Shadowy screams coming from the keeper. Hmm.
- Eliminating the position of emperor would be a BANG-UP idea, dears.
- Oh noes! An evil urn!
mylittleredgirl, I see what you mean about things NEEDING TO BE ADDRESSED in the finale and not getting so! AUGH!
- Another thing that should've been addressed was Lennier going away! Although, since I've ditched that development from My Personal Canon, I guess it doesn't need to be dealt with, since he never went away! Ah, logic.
- Okay, Sheridan's recording to his child made me all weepy. That must be horrible to know you're never going to see your kid past his nineteenth year. That's barely time enough to graduate from high school.
- *sigh* Ivanova should totally be in this sequence. Perhaps she's implied in "you'll lose old friends." (I have been sorely feeling the lack of Ivanova in all these goodbye scenes. Her memory lingers on the station too, you know! I know they probably couldn't bring Claudia back, but they could've at least mentioned her name somewhere?)
- Aaaand Sheridan is now Polonius.
- Okay, I admit it. Delenn and Sheridan are cute together.
And now I have no more B5. WOES. Well, I have the movies, I guess. And Crusade, roughly half of which I don't think I saw when it was airing. But it's not the same.
I think I have a three-way tie for "My Favorite TV Series EVER" between this, Northern Exposure, and Slings & Arrows. I am basically turning right around and rewatching it all the way through, because I know I missed details here and there, and links between episodes across seasons that will become clearer the second time around. And then--or perhaps simultaneously--I am going to attempt to finish all these fics lying around on my hard drive.
Plus, you know, all this work I still have to do this summer. Er. Maybe this will go very slowly...
- Hey, is that a ship that looks an awful lot like Serenity? Perhaps it's a Drazi ship? It just needs an engine lighting up its butt to be a Firefly-class vessel...
- Oooh, unlucky Lochley gets saddled with the exposition about the jumpgates.
- THINGS I DIDN'T NEED TO KNOW ABOUT SHERIDAN AND DELENN'S SEX LIFE, EXHIBIT A.
- Heh, it may even be deductible.
- Are the aliens in Londo's experience/nightmare like evil versions of Lorien's race? They have the same creepily long fingers...
- Huh. Londo asks the aliens both "Who are you" and "What do you want [with me]." Interesting.
- Soooo not the point of this alliance thing, guys.
- Is there a reason they can't just have a damn Supreme Commander of Alliance Forces or something like that? It worked for the Allies in WWII.
- Moving the jumpgate was cool. And *whew* to making it through with minimal damage, although somehow I don't think that will hold true for the rest of the episodes.
- Insurrection! Uh-oh!
- ...okay, someone point me to the Franklin/Lyta fic, because them bickering over the map pretty much made my day.
- DUDE. Lyta. Whoa.
- I love how Lennier has totally taken on human expressions ("Trouble," etc.). Hee.
- Eeeek, Shadow-ship screaming in Lyta's head!
- Aha, the Centauri strategy begins to make sense.
- Ohhh, Delenn and Lennier, you're so screwed. Surely some good samaritan in a spaceship will be by to give you a lift?
- Of course, your screwedness is NOTHING compared to what the CENTAURI are about to go through. HOLY CRAP.
The Fall of Centauri Prime
- Today is a very bad day to be Sheridan.
- Heh, the Drakh are so postcolonial.
- Eeek, they remembered Londo from the Shadow war.
- Dude, the Centauri need some parliamentary and/or constitutional action, stat. This whole authoritarian monarch thing just not practical over an interstellar empire.
- Londo, RUN!
- "Yes, but I am a better person." *snerk*
- Awww, but Londo and G'Kar can't
- Oh, Londo--all the power, none of the choice.
- G'Kar forgives him. *sniff*
- DON'T DO IT, LONDO!
- Oh, the Centauri aren't in the Alliance anymore. :(
- Ohhh, Lennier. *hugs him* And now he has to live with having said that. Whoops!
- BWAHAHAHAHA, nice save, Delenn.
- SIGH. *totally thinks Delenn should dump Sheridan and run off with Lennier* *okay, not totally. but definitely partially.*
- "You could always board up the windows." Oh, Vir.
- Uhhh...despite the earlier parallels with WWII and the formation of the UN, are the Centauri now the Germans after the Treaty of Versailles ended WWI?
- Did Delenn say something to Londo in a past season about him having darkness all around him? Or was that someone else? Poor, poor Londo.
- I wasn't a fan of the montage from earlier seasons--something about montages on this show always bugs me--but the bells were a nice, mournful touch.
- Heh, the Shadows were the USSR. And why does Franklin so often get stuck as JMS's mouthpiece for philosophizing?
- Hmmm. A million years before we're ready to go to the Vorlon homeworld. I suppose that's the "New Earth" spoken of in "Deconstruction"?
- Londo. :(
The Wheel of Fire
- Haha. Poor, adored G'Kar.
- Oh, Michael.
- Uh, yeah. Everyone suspected. It was pretty obvious you were drinking.
- OOOOH, the disappointment! So much worse than anger.
- Oh, dear. More Psi Corps attacks.
- Oh, Lyta.
- I'm glad they found a way to pull in Lochley's prior experience with addiction there. I'd actually been kind of wondering where she was in the past few episodes; she doesn't seem to get much screentime.
- Awww, Zack has to take Lyta down. :(
- Well, she does kind of have a point about the gratitude everyone owes her. Perhaps taking over the minds of everyone in the Zocalo is not really the way to go about proving that point...
- "You cannot stop someone who's been touched by Vorlons!" *sporfle* I felt like she should've ripped her shirt off to reveal a spandex suit with a big "V" on it or something right there.
- Oh, let me guess, Delenn is pregnant. [five minutes later] Yep. How did I know?
- "What camera?" Heh.
- Dude, Lyta should work on Wall Street.
- Bwahaha, G'kar doesn't want to be an image. He should TOTALLY talk to Eavan Boland. They could write poetry together. < /thesis in-joke >
- I would've totally watched another series chronicling the adventures of G'Kar and Lyta on their voyage of exploration.
- Perhaps Lyta should be a POLITICIAN. She drives a damn hard bargain.
- Ack, glowy Vorlon eyes!
Objects in Motion
- Number One! I never thought we'd be seeing her again!
- ...is Lyta in a straightjacket?
- Heh, Zack totally sounds like Garibaldi at his most paranoid.
- Aww, the poor acolyte. Let me guess, he tries to kill G'Kar later in the episode.
- Yep.
- Uhh...240 light-years means its basically new. It's nearly eleven from Earth to B5 alone.
- See, see? The station IS full of ghosts! G'Kar even says so!
- That poor nurse.
- "Besides, I started to like them [the handcuffs]." Eep.
- Awwww. Zack is watching Lyta go and pining! Oh, Zack! Oh, you are so sweet! Why is there not more Zack/Lyta fic out there?
- Ooooh, Garibaldi is crafty.
- And Number One gets a new job!
- "When they built this station, irony was one of the primary materials of construction." Heh.
- Uh...won't Number One actually be on Minbar once the Alliance government moves there? Why would she be staying on B5?
- Way to drag out everyone leaving. I know it would be less realistic, but I kind of wish they'd kept all the goodbyes to one short stretch of one episode, instead of dragging it out over four or five of them. (Mostly because each of these episodes has made me all teary at at least one point. Argh! Now I'm really glad I watched SiL before, because seeing it after this run might've ended me.)
- Garibaldi, you couldn't have mentioned Ivanova's name in your little family? *sadface*
- Aw, Sheridan and Delenn are walking the length of the station. I still don't exactly ship them, but this season has made me more appreciative of them together.
Objects at Rest
- Ta'Lon! Aw, he gets promoted just like Vir!
- I wasn't totally sold on the whole G'Kar-and-Ta'Lon-talking-side-by-side thing, but then I remembered what G'Kar said about ghosts on the station in the last episode, and it makes more sense seen through that lens.
- Lennier!
- Wait, why the hell is Number One staying on B5?
- THANK YOU, Lochley, for asking that very excellent question! As for the answer...well, okay, I guess. I kind of feel like in the real world, the the head of covert ops would be at the capital, leaving B5 for a high-level operative, but whatever.
- BWAH! Of course Garibaldi promotes all the troublemakers.
- Hmmm. Wonder if the other aliens have lots and lots of languages...
- Awww, the Minbari don't have a word for goodbye. I like their language.
- And Zack is there when they turn off the lights, just like he says.
- Oof. Can I get some dramamine for that swoopy bit where they match rotation?
- Oh. That's such a nice shot, with all the new people in the observation deck window, and Lochley and Sheridan saluting each other. Really sad, though. :(
- WHAT?!?! Okay, this episode was just STRICKEN FROM MY PERSONAL CANON. In my universe, Lennier did NOT just do that! I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THIS DEVELOPMENT!
- Well, okay, maybe I'll just strike that part, because I did like what came before and after. Like Londo! Poor Londo who wants a drink.
- Oooh. Delenn can hear the Shadowy screams coming from the keeper. Hmm.
- Eliminating the position of emperor would be a BANG-UP idea, dears.
- Oh noes! An evil urn!
- Another thing that should've been addressed was Lennier going away! Although, since I've ditched that development from My Personal Canon, I guess it doesn't need to be dealt with, since he never went away! Ah, logic.
- Okay, Sheridan's recording to his child made me all weepy. That must be horrible to know you're never going to see your kid past his nineteenth year. That's barely time enough to graduate from high school.
- *sigh* Ivanova should totally be in this sequence. Perhaps she's implied in "you'll lose old friends." (I have been sorely feeling the lack of Ivanova in all these goodbye scenes. Her memory lingers on the station too, you know! I know they probably couldn't bring Claudia back, but they could've at least mentioned her name somewhere?)
- Aaaand Sheridan is now Polonius.
- Okay, I admit it. Delenn and Sheridan are cute together.
And now I have no more B5. WOES. Well, I have the movies, I guess. And Crusade, roughly half of which I don't think I saw when it was airing. But it's not the same.
I think I have a three-way tie for "My Favorite TV Series EVER" between this, Northern Exposure, and Slings & Arrows. I am basically turning right around and rewatching it all the way through, because I know I missed details here and there, and links between episodes across seasons that will become clearer the second time around. And then--or perhaps simultaneously--I am going to attempt to finish all these fics lying around on my hard drive.
Plus, you know, all this work I still have to do this summer. Er. Maybe this will go very slowly...
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Date: 2009-06-11 03:42 am (UTC)I have to say that, just in the two episodes I watched last night, I was already struck by Londo's discussion of the fact that Centauri know how they're going to die, and the dream he had where he and G'Kar are at each other's throats. Damn! (Now you know why I suffered through "The Soul Hunter" last night--that, plus you going on about Minbari and their beliefs re: souls, which turned out not to be part of that ep so much...)
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