I wonder sometimes how much of how she reacts to Marcus is her actually disliking him, and how much is her really really really not wanting to get involved in a relationship.
Very, very good point. I think it's both, too, and I think she really does like him by, say, the beginning of S4. But I also think it's the kind of "like" that would turn to "hate" once they were actually in a relationship and she had to deal with him day in and day out. It's like one of those relationships that works great when you're in constant danger and every day could be your last, but once you're back to "normal" life, it all falls apart. At least, I'm semi-sure it would end up like that.
(Hmmm. Possibly my thoughts on this subject are influenced by the fact that while I like my ships to be full of banter, I also like for there to be a clearly-defined Chief Snarker, or for their snark to be complementary rather than similar, so that you have one person as the straight [wo]man in most situations. I feel like this stems from watching Moonlighting at an impressionable age.)
(I think I'm also influenced by the fact that while I intellectually acknowledge Susan had serious feelings for Talia, I never quite got the feeling they ran that deep on the show itself, so there's less immediacy to the idea of her not wanting to be in a relationship.)
The trouble with their ending is that it's just so right. It's so... inevitable. Marcus is so in love with her, so in love with the idea of dying for a person or cause, and she's so convinced that nothing ever goes right for her in terms of romance, that it just seems like it's the only way their story could end.
Yes, this is a perfect summation of it. It was completely inevitable.
don't encourage me to ship Marcus/Lennier, because I swear the only thing keeping me from it so far is the horrible thought that it would be the blind leading the blind, and likely to turn into the most obscene farce in the world if allowed to extend to anything beyond silly adventures
It would TOTALLY be the blind leading the blind, yes. And one could either go for high comedy or serious angst with it. (Oh, god, I am not allowed to write this. I've already got Marcus yammering at me about this weird thing based on Ulysses he wants me to do...)
Okay, so your replacement-for-Crusade idea is pretty much making my eyes bug out and my mouth go OMG YES!!! That would be PERFECT! I would watch the hell out of it. Susan and Michael would make most excellent bounty hunters, and they could totally run across G'Kar and Lyta, and Lennier. And yes, the adventures of Delenn controlling the galaxy via Sheridan on Minbar need to be part of it as well.
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Date: 2010-08-06 01:54 am (UTC)Very, very good point. I think it's both, too, and I think she really does like him by, say, the beginning of S4. But I also think it's the kind of "like" that would turn to "hate" once they were actually in a relationship and she had to deal with him day in and day out. It's like one of those relationships that works great when you're in constant danger and every day could be your last, but once you're back to "normal" life, it all falls apart. At least, I'm semi-sure it would end up like that.
(Hmmm. Possibly my thoughts on this subject are influenced by the fact that while I like my ships to be full of banter, I also like for there to be a clearly-defined Chief Snarker, or for their snark to be complementary rather than similar, so that you have one person as the straight [wo]man in most situations. I feel like this stems from watching Moonlighting at an impressionable age.)
(I think I'm also influenced by the fact that while I intellectually acknowledge Susan had serious feelings for Talia, I never quite got the feeling they ran that deep on the show itself, so there's less immediacy to the idea of her not wanting to be in a relationship.)
The trouble with their ending is that it's just so right. It's so... inevitable. Marcus is so in love with her, so in love with the idea of dying for a person or cause, and she's so convinced that nothing ever goes right for her in terms of romance, that it just seems like it's the only way their story could end.
Yes, this is a perfect summation of it. It was completely inevitable.
don't encourage me to ship Marcus/Lennier, because I swear the only thing keeping me from it so far is the horrible thought that it would be the blind leading the blind, and likely to turn into the most obscene farce in the world if allowed to extend to anything beyond silly adventures
It would TOTALLY be the blind leading the blind, yes. And one could either go for high comedy or serious angst with it. (Oh, god, I am not allowed to write this. I've already got Marcus yammering at me about this weird thing based on Ulysses he wants me to do...)
Okay, so your replacement-for-Crusade idea is pretty much making my eyes bug out and my mouth go OMG YES!!! That would be PERFECT! I would watch the hell out of it. Susan and Michael would make most excellent bounty hunters, and they could totally run across G'Kar and Lyta, and Lennier. And yes, the adventures of Delenn controlling the galaxy via Sheridan on Minbar need to be part of it as well.