First, there's Nina telling Olivia to talk to Peter about her feeeeeelings. I know Nina has other sides to her besides "badass," but this seemed...not exactly in character.
Olivia and Nina had a conversation last season, can't remember the specific episode, about Olivia's feelings for Peter, a conversation that Nina initiated. So it's not totally out of character?
Yeah...I am half and half on the Peter's love decides the fate of the universes thing. I mean, I think thematically it ties back to a lot of stuff, like Peter's heart being super-important back in Brown Betty, but it just seems a little...pat. I'm not quite ready to call it feminist fail just because the show has such a good track record on that score and I'd like to give it the benefit of the doubt, but...yeah.
I mean, as much as the show before this point has been driven by Olivia and her agency and baggage and decisions &c, Peter's been a kind of passive character throughout, really. I'm not automatically against him taking a turn driving the car. And, like, Peter pretty much was the object that drove the plot for the entirety of the back half of S2. It's kinda like that discussion we were having about B5, about what constituted gender fail and what didn't - the idea that male characters could do this or that and it was just writing, but if female characters did the same this or that it was gender fail. I mean, I totally reserve the right to change my mind depending on what happens next (and also because TV in general just doesn't have the greatest track record on this kind of thing), but I'm not ready to condemn the show just yet.
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Date: 2011-02-05 03:56 am (UTC)Olivia and Nina had a conversation last season, can't remember the specific episode, about Olivia's feelings for Peter, a conversation that Nina initiated. So it's not totally out of character?
Yeah...I am half and half on the Peter's love decides the fate of the universes thing. I mean, I think thematically it ties back to a lot of stuff, like Peter's heart being super-important back in Brown Betty, but it just seems a little...pat. I'm not quite ready to call it feminist fail just because the show has such a good track record on that score and I'd like to give it the benefit of the doubt, but...yeah.
I mean, as much as the show before this point has been driven by Olivia and her agency and baggage and decisions &c, Peter's been a kind of passive character throughout, really. I'm not automatically against him taking a turn driving the car. And, like, Peter pretty much was the object that drove the plot for the entirety of the back half of S2. It's kinda like that discussion we were having about B5, about what constituted gender fail and what didn't - the idea that male characters could do this or that and it was just writing, but if female characters did the same this or that it was gender fail. I mean, I totally reserve the right to change my mind depending on what happens next (and also because TV in general just doesn't have the greatest track record on this kind of thing), but I'm not ready to condemn the show just yet.