Doomsday post part 2
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icepixieMore in-depth commentary on "Doomsday."
Fair warning: Lots of capslock. Lots of anger. If you liked this episode and don't want your high spoiled, back away now.
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So...Parting of the Ways, Part 2, Cyber-Dalek Boogaloo?
Yeah. The more I think about it, the more not so much with the impressed I am.
- Okay, one of the Daleks--I think it was "Kahn" (OMG)--sounded like freaking Fozzie Bear. Seriously. I was giggling.
- Aw, I knew Daleks were the superior villain! Heh, and they traded insults with the Cybermen. Only on a British show, man.
- "I'll think of something!" Doctor, you sound a bit desperate...
- "You're gonna listen for once." Ooooh, I liked that. You tell 'im, Pete.
- Okay, the "Time Lord" ark was a surprise. Unlike many things this year. But hey, hands up all of those who were secretly hoping that, say, Romana was in there? Or some other Time Lord? Since the Daleks intimated that they didn't know what it was (although of course they were lying).
- ...But I like Harriet. Grrr.
- Um. Doctor. Newsflash: AU!Pete and Our!Jackie? RECIPE FOR DISASTER. That is NOT how healthy relationships work. JACKIE DOES NOT NEED TO BE PREGNANT, OH MY GOD. They are not the same people they each married, and trying to say that basically they are? NOT COOL. I'm not sure if I hated this bit or Rose's "end" more. See below.
- I think actually what bothered me the most about their "reunion" was that it caused an episode that had until then been rollicking along to come to a GRINDING. CRASHING. HALT. about halfway through. Lord. Way to not integrate your emotional beats at all, RTD. Usually you're pretty good at that, too.
- So Rose does remember POTW! Er, how, exactly? Although I should think she would, seeing as this was BASICALLY A REPLICA OF IT.
- "Fall of Arcadia"? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, GIVE US MORE INFO ABOUT THE TIME WAR. NOW, DAMN YOU.
- Oh, look. Another bunch of Daleks flying about in formation. Where have I seen this before?
- Aw, together forever! She'll never leave him! "And every planet out there, he does it alone!" Rose, did you learn nothing from Sarah Jane? Arrrrgh. Way to completely ignore all past companions!
- Is it wrong that I laughed out loud when the Doctor put the chest-thing over her head and sent her to the alternate universe?
- Also laughing at the One Emo Cyber-Tear from Yvonne. Dude. Cheesy.
- Oh, look, a Dalek escaped the void. I wonder who's going to show up next season finale?
- Oh, the emo! Oh, the tears! Oh, the mascara running down Billie's cheeks!
- My goodness, this reminds me of POTW, what with Rose banging her hands and crying against a door/wall and wailing to be taken back. Possibly because the key emotional moment is EXACTLY THE SAME.
- Okay, the weird not-quite-pop-not-quite-muzak music? Not a good idea. That might have been an emotional few minutes there, but the music ruined it. Possibly that was what I most hated about this episode.
- Rose? He's Not. Your. Dad. Did we not go through all of this in ROTC/AOS? Didn't we? How convenient that we can let it fall away when we need you to be separated for good from the Doctor.
- Oh, look, another hologram. Although at least they can interact, sort of.
- "Bad Wolf Bay"? That's it for the build up they pointed at in T&C?
- Billie goes for the BAFTA!
- The "I love you"? Doing pretty much nothing for me. Sorry.
- Oh, look, I'm crying a single emo tear, just for you, Rose.
- Actually, no. She got SCREWED. It is sad. She gets to be safe and taken care of BY HER DADDY, good for her! WAY TO IGNORE ALL THE GROWTH SHE'S HAD. Yeah, she's going to work for Torchwood. What-the-fuck-ever. When she said she was working in a shop again? I didn't disbelieve her for a moment, because with how she's been regressing this season, THAT WAS TOTALLY BELIEVABLE.
Okay, I'm pissed off now. Yeah, I've been liking Rose less and less this season, but she deserved better.
All right, it's good that the Doctor didn't send her off, and I realize that it was pretty much either Pete grabs her or she dies in the void, and it's nice that she's not dead. But COME ON! It would've been better had she been given the choice, you know? How much better would it have been had RTD given her the opportunity, the power to say, "I'm needed here, not with you, Doctor"? Of course, they'd set up the whole "I'll be with you FOREVER because we have the TWU WUV!" thing, but so what? It's not like they didn't forget everything about the AU being an AU, no touchie, so why not ignore that when it suits them?
ARRRGGGHHHH.
And then the ending, with the bride (apparently the actress is well-known and well-hated in Britain?) and...WTF? In poor taste, I think. Of course, so was much of the episode. Bah.
Okay, I'm done being bitter now. Rage has reduced from boil to simmer, and will eventually cool completely. *shrug*
ETA: I read through this again, and I want to clarify it (if for nothing else than posterity). Had this been real life, I'd be very pleased that Pete pulled Rose out of the way of certain death (or certain voidyness). But it's a TV show, and as such it has license--perhaps even something approaching a mandate--to be more thematically put-together than RL does. So Rose made her choice: stay with the Doctor, come hell or high water or getting sucked into a vortex. Either let her face the consequences of that decision--let her die--or don't put her in it at all. Make it necessary for her to seal the breach and end up in the AU; let her sacrifice mean something, rather than having it negated when Pete pulls her out of harm's way. Rose doesn't get to act; she has things happen to her. She's tossed around like a football; she's objectified. (You know I'm angry when I trot out the English major buzzwords.) This is not the same girl who expounded about how the Doctor makes you a better person in POTW. This is her opposite, one who has things happen to her because she's not bright enough to do things on her own. If last season was about Rose growing up, this moment--many moments this season, but mostly this one--is about her being put back in her place, a child who can't think for herself. And it's not the way the Rose I thought I was seeing onscreen should have gone out.
Fair warning: Lots of capslock. Lots of anger. If you liked this episode and don't want your high spoiled, back away now.
*
So...Parting of the Ways, Part 2, Cyber-Dalek Boogaloo?
Yeah. The more I think about it, the more not so much with the impressed I am.
- Okay, one of the Daleks--I think it was "Kahn" (OMG)--sounded like freaking Fozzie Bear. Seriously. I was giggling.
- Aw, I knew Daleks were the superior villain! Heh, and they traded insults with the Cybermen. Only on a British show, man.
- "I'll think of something!" Doctor, you sound a bit desperate...
- "You're gonna listen for once." Ooooh, I liked that. You tell 'im, Pete.
- Okay, the "Time Lord" ark was a surprise. Unlike many things this year. But hey, hands up all of those who were secretly hoping that, say, Romana was in there? Or some other Time Lord? Since the Daleks intimated that they didn't know what it was (although of course they were lying).
- ...But I like Harriet. Grrr.
- Um. Doctor. Newsflash: AU!Pete and Our!Jackie? RECIPE FOR DISASTER. That is NOT how healthy relationships work. JACKIE DOES NOT NEED TO BE PREGNANT, OH MY GOD. They are not the same people they each married, and trying to say that basically they are? NOT COOL. I'm not sure if I hated this bit or Rose's "end" more. See below.
- I think actually what bothered me the most about their "reunion" was that it caused an episode that had until then been rollicking along to come to a GRINDING. CRASHING. HALT. about halfway through. Lord. Way to not integrate your emotional beats at all, RTD. Usually you're pretty good at that, too.
- So Rose does remember POTW! Er, how, exactly? Although I should think she would, seeing as this was BASICALLY A REPLICA OF IT.
- "Fall of Arcadia"? FOR CRYING OUT LOUD, GIVE US MORE INFO ABOUT THE TIME WAR. NOW, DAMN YOU.
- Oh, look. Another bunch of Daleks flying about in formation. Where have I seen this before?
- Aw, together forever! She'll never leave him! "And every planet out there, he does it alone!" Rose, did you learn nothing from Sarah Jane? Arrrrgh. Way to completely ignore all past companions!
- Is it wrong that I laughed out loud when the Doctor put the chest-thing over her head and sent her to the alternate universe?
- Also laughing at the One Emo Cyber-Tear from Yvonne. Dude. Cheesy.
- Oh, look, a Dalek escaped the void. I wonder who's going to show up next season finale?
- Oh, the emo! Oh, the tears! Oh, the mascara running down Billie's cheeks!
- My goodness, this reminds me of POTW, what with Rose banging her hands and crying against a door/wall and wailing to be taken back. Possibly because the key emotional moment is EXACTLY THE SAME.
- Okay, the weird not-quite-pop-not-quite-muzak music? Not a good idea. That might have been an emotional few minutes there, but the music ruined it. Possibly that was what I most hated about this episode.
- Rose? He's Not. Your. Dad. Did we not go through all of this in ROTC/AOS? Didn't we? How convenient that we can let it fall away when we need you to be separated for good from the Doctor.
- Oh, look, another hologram. Although at least they can interact, sort of.
- "Bad Wolf Bay"? That's it for the build up they pointed at in T&C?
- Billie goes for the BAFTA!
- The "I love you"? Doing pretty much nothing for me. Sorry.
- Oh, look, I'm crying a single emo tear, just for you, Rose.
- Actually, no. She got SCREWED. It is sad. She gets to be safe and taken care of BY HER DADDY, good for her! WAY TO IGNORE ALL THE GROWTH SHE'S HAD. Yeah, she's going to work for Torchwood. What-the-fuck-ever. When she said she was working in a shop again? I didn't disbelieve her for a moment, because with how she's been regressing this season, THAT WAS TOTALLY BELIEVABLE.
Okay, I'm pissed off now. Yeah, I've been liking Rose less and less this season, but she deserved better.
All right, it's good that the Doctor didn't send her off, and I realize that it was pretty much either Pete grabs her or she dies in the void, and it's nice that she's not dead. But COME ON! It would've been better had she been given the choice, you know? How much better would it have been had RTD given her the opportunity, the power to say, "I'm needed here, not with you, Doctor"? Of course, they'd set up the whole "I'll be with you FOREVER because we have the TWU WUV!" thing, but so what? It's not like they didn't forget everything about the AU being an AU, no touchie, so why not ignore that when it suits them?
ARRRGGGHHHH.
And then the ending, with the bride (apparently the actress is well-known and well-hated in Britain?) and...WTF? In poor taste, I think. Of course, so was much of the episode. Bah.
Okay, I'm done being bitter now. Rage has reduced from boil to simmer, and will eventually cool completely. *shrug*
ETA: I read through this again, and I want to clarify it (if for nothing else than posterity). Had this been real life, I'd be very pleased that Pete pulled Rose out of the way of certain death (or certain voidyness). But it's a TV show, and as such it has license--perhaps even something approaching a mandate--to be more thematically put-together than RL does. So Rose made her choice: stay with the Doctor, come hell or high water or getting sucked into a vortex. Either let her face the consequences of that decision--let her die--or don't put her in it at all. Make it necessary for her to seal the breach and end up in the AU; let her sacrifice mean something, rather than having it negated when Pete pulls her out of harm's way. Rose doesn't get to act; she has things happen to her. She's tossed around like a football; she's objectified. (You know I'm angry when I trot out the English major buzzwords.) This is not the same girl who expounded about how the Doctor makes you a better person in POTW. This is her opposite, one who has things happen to her because she's not bright enough to do things on her own. If last season was about Rose growing up, this moment--many moments this season, but mostly this one--is about her being put back in her place, a child who can't think for herself. And it's not the way the Rose I thought I was seeing onscreen should have gone out.
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Date: 2006-07-10 04:47 pm (UTC)Because Rusty sacrificed any brains Rose might have on the altar of TWU WUV?
I think it was the only option. They had to deflate the emo and give us a sense of "life goes on" and only comedy could get away with it, I think. Because it's just so bizarre.
The more I think about it, the more that view makes sense. But at the time, the thought process in my head was essentially, "RAGE RAGE RAGE...WTF? MORE RAGE," which is not really conducive to comedy.