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RTD: Alien planets are "too expensive."

And a Slitheen ship crashing into Big Ben isn't? Or a massive CGI wereworlf? Or the sun blowing up and incinerating the Earth? I'm sorry, that doesn't fly. Try again.


P.S. Avast, me hearties! *walks around with peg leg and parrot*

Date: 2006-09-19 05:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com
I'm not really familiar with other stuff he's done, but if this is his M.O., then yeah. He probably shouldn't be running it. I mean, if any show needs wild imagination and limitless plots, this is it by its very nature. "Too expensive" is a very lame excuse.

Date: 2006-09-19 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com
Argh. Maybe he'll go over to Torchwood full time and leave someone else in charge at DW.

Oh, please, please let this happen! After all, I get the feeling he's all about Torchwood at this point and maybe doesn't care so much about DW anymore. (Please? Please?!?)

I need a new version of this icon that says "Rusty" instead of "Bush." Now that's saying something!

Date: 2006-09-20 12:58 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com
Yeah, Old Who was all about getting off of Earth.

I mean...completely awesome spaceship!! *flails* LEAVE. EARTH.

Similarly, he can be pretty imaginative on Earth--I loved TEotW--

Right. That was actually the episode that sold me on the show for the very reason of the great imagination.

but DW is, by its very nature, basically free verse. Hence lots of us getting pissed off about the unnecessary restraints.

Well, yeah!

Argh. Maybe he'll go over to Torchwood full time and leave someone else in charge at DW. (I know they're bringing in Gary Russell, who was in charge of the Big Finish audios, over as script editor this season. He has a massive fondness for Gallifrey and alien planets, so maybe we'll see more!)

Nice!

Date: 2006-09-19 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com
Brilliant icon!

I only know RTD from DW and Casanova, but in both instances, he's tended to go off the reservation. The last hour of Casanova has some seriously weird stuff that made me blink and say "Huh?!?" I still haven't figured out where it came from, because it sure isn't history! And with DW, I feel like he's already shown what little range he has, and is now running out of ideas--not that the ideas he's written himself have been all that fabulous. (A friend on another forum pointed out that a lot of "Doomsday" was basically like a little kid playing with his action figures, and I have to agree. Sure, you want kids to be able to watch, but a show with this much history shouldn't be constantly down on their level. Not when you want the adults to watch, too.)

Date: 2006-09-20 01:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com
Brilliant icon!

Thanks! From here (http://empty-ambition.livejournal.com/42128.html).

I only know RTD from DW and Casanova, but in both instances, he's tended to go off the reservation. The last hour of Casanova has some seriously weird stuff that made me blink and say "Huh?!?" I still haven't figured out where it came from, because it sure isn't history!

Never saw Casanova. Probably won't from that description.

And with DW, I feel like he's already shown what little range he has, and is now running out of ideas--not that the ideas he's written himself have been all that fabulous. (A friend on another forum pointed out that a lot of "Doomsday" was basically like a little kid playing with his action figures, and I have to agree. Sure, you want kids to be able to watch, but a show with this much history shouldn't be constantly down on their level. Not when you want the adults to watch, too.)

Yeah. *sigh* What started me out with really digging this show was the whole "this is a different morality - get used to it or go home" thing. To me that's great science fiction: something that will take you out of your comfort zone or perceived social norm. Many times the show had an unsettling edge to it. But a lot of S2 seemed more going through the science fiction motions. Eh, I still watched and loved most of it because I was already hooked.

Date: 2006-09-20 01:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com
I enjoyed Casanova, for the most part. It's just here and there that you kind of sit there going "Huh?" Mostly toward the end--though I was still almost in tears by the time it was over. I don't think that's got much to do with Rusty, though--I'd credit David Tennant, Laura Fraser, and Peter O'Toole with that one. It does border on being over the top in a few other places, too, but it's not too bad.

I've been hooked on DW for 20 years now, so the idea of it going downhill is literally painful. The morality of the show's always been quite consistent, until we got flaky mood-swings-on-a-dime!Ten, which is where my problem centrally lies. It got to where I'd watch each episode hoping that it would be the one without the "You won't thwart me!" egomania, and then it would inevitably appear and I'd be thinking "And....there it is. Sigh." I'd so hoped that the final scene with Harriet in TCI was a fluke (and I could deal with that if I'd thought he was right. But I don't). :(

Date: 2006-09-20 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrv3000.livejournal.com
Right right right. The over-the-top acting got to me a bit as well. I think DT *could* have done an exuberant incarnation without the camp - it was possible to have one without the other. But that's partly the fault of the directors and the show runners as well - it should have been reigned in and it wasn't.

Date: 2006-09-20 02:12 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] alto2.livejournal.com
I think DT *could* have done an exuberant incarnation without the camp

I had such high hopes after TCI--writing off that last bit with Harriet as a fluke, which I clearly shouldn't have done. He was so much fun, though, otherwise--a little goofy, able to be serious when necessary, but that sense of wonder was fantastic. I watched it...I don't know how many times before the series started in April! And then they went and turned him into Mr Takes-Nothing-Seriously-Until-You-Cross-Me, and I'm still hoping they'll fix that next year. It made him almost impossible to watch, and that's a shame.

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