BSG Finale - Spoiler version
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icepixieOh. Wow.
That exceeded every expectation I had. I wondered how they were going to pull an ending out of their asses, and they did. With time to spare. They even made the flashbacks semi-relevant.
And Ron Moore, you slippery little bastard, you didn't give us a straight answer at the end, did you? Law of averages, indeed.
I have quite literally four and a half pages of handwritten notes on this thing, so I don't even really know where to start. One thing that jumps out at me is that...I think Ron Moore declared that there is a singular god in the BSGverse? Because Head!Six and Head!Baltar were definitely not hallucinations at the end. (Also, Head!Six and Head!Baltar are ACTUALLY ANGELS. HOLY CRAP.) Also, I think Baltar saved Hera and the human race by talking out his ass in that pivotal scene in C&C? BALTAR SAVED THE HUMAN RACE. AFTER HE HELPED ALMOST DESTROY IT. BALTAR WAS REDEEMED. (And then he goes off an farms with Caprica Six. Because he "knows about farming." I DID NOT EXPECT THAT AT ALL.)
Anyway. You know, I had figured from nearly the beginning that these people were going to find Earth and turn into the Greeks. I see I was tangentially right. Perhaps the most religious people settled in Greece and that's why they kept the gods? Although 145,000-odd years is a long time to keep the same names around. Hmm. Okay, never mind the logic. I liked Hera as mitochondrial Eve. It was one of the few fitting possibilities left for her specialness. Although it doesn't exactly jive with RDM's endorsement of the multiple origin points theory if we're all descended from Hera, does it? Argh, my head. Never mind. (Also, hee, RDM cameo!)
I sobbed like a baby at the Adama/Roslin scenes. The last one, with her grave, killed me, as did her death in the Raptor. Oh, Laura. And Bill. At least she finally saw the promised land. ("Earth is a dream" was awesome, BTW.) But they never got to build their cabin. :( I guess she had to die, finally, because she'd been overdue for years now, but oh...someone needs to write an AU where they build a cabin and live there together for a while. And where he gives her the ring before she dies, dammit.
And now Lee is all alone, because Kara...mysteriously vanished, like a pigeon flying out a window. That scene was very cool, and the mysteriousness of it is attractive, but...I could've used some more answers there. What was she? (Was she an angel, as Leoben said in the flashback? Sam told her he would see her on the other side--is she a Cylon? Does everyone go to heaven?) Was Daniel her father? What was her relationship with Hera? Where did she go? The "angels" at the end made it seem like the choice of world was almost random, because the cycle of robots and death had happened everywhere, but there had to be a reason Kara led them there. (BTW, I KNEW the music would lead them to a new home!)
(Comcast went on the fritz during one of the Kara/Lee flashbacks, so there may have been more background there that I missed. It came back on around the time Kara was saying she didn't want to be forgotten, so I did at least get that resonance.)
I also question whether everyone would seriously have given up all their technology, etc. so willingly. I could almost buy the separating into tiny farming communities, but no tech? Come on. Archaeologists are totally going to dig up alien technology any day now.
I wonder if Lee actually went exploring. Many other people seemed to be getting their wishes, so perhaps he did as well. Anders got to be part of a moment of perfection (and that part also made me cry :(); Saul and Ellen got to be together; Bill is going to build the cabin, albeit without Laura *sniff*; the Agathons got to be a family (and how glad am I that Helo pulled through? I thought he was a goner for sure); Tyrol went awayto the UK(?) from everyone.
...Tyrol also killed Tory. I admit, I cackled rather evilly at her talk about how they were going to know each other intimately after touching the datawater, and how they've all done bad things. I figured that would end poorly for her, although I didn't think he would actually kill her. I think they could've used her better overall; her arc ended up being a bit of a disappointment. Although I guess it was necessary in a way to breaking the cycle--if Tyrol hadn't killed her, the Cylons would still have resurrection tech, and Kara would've have had to input her freaky coordinates, so they never would've gone to Earth, or they might have gone but had Cylons on their tail.
Speaking of going to Earth...how did the rest of the fleet get there? Were they able to send a raptor back to the rendezvous and transmit the new coordinates? Did Skulls and Racetrack have something to do with that? (Did they make it back to Galactica after firing the nukes? Did all the Cylons on the Colony perish in that attack?)
So many questions. But one thing they did explain mostly to my satisfaction was the opera house. Baltar and Six were protecting Hera rather than taking her away, apparently? I loved that the opera house was in fact Galactica, and specifically C&C. That intercutting was awesome.
The effects were beautiful. I see what they were saving their money this past half-season for.
Shorter takes:
- Athena shooting Boomer was ICY. Wow. (Boomer's flashback, I think, was the most relevant to the current timeline. The others were nice, but I wouldn't have missed them.)
- Laura sleeping with her former student was pretty icky. Ack.
- Fighting with rather than against the Centurions was so cool. So was the shot of them marching down the hangar.
- Drunk!Adama was not so cool. Although it did bring the following Oscar Wilde quote to my mind: "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
- I want an icon with Kara holding the decanter and shot glasses and looking kind of crazy. Hee.
- Oh, Cottle. "Light a cigarette and walk off. Don't spoil your image." Heh.
- "Always looking for new and interesting ways to get killed." Heh.
- Oh, wow. C&C was completely hybridized. Wow.
- HOW THE HELL DID THE PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION FALL TO LAMPKIN??! AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
- Well, I see they did find a place for at least one civilian--Roslin in sickbay. I want to know where the rest of them went to. And oh, Ishay was so businesslike--x's on the heads of those you can't save. I know she had to be, but wow.
- "In the end, it's all about mathematics." And then Boomer kills him and saves Hera, thus disputing that. Although then the angels at the end seem to give it truth...
- Hera needs to stop running around. SERIOUSLY.
- "Please continue stating the perfectly obvious." "You are keeping two civilizations waiting." Ah, Cavil. Snarky to the end. Even if you are the villain, I always liked you.
- Anyone notice how the blue lights in the corridor turned Cylon red when Doral walked by?
- "The Shape of Things to Come"!
- Any thoughts on why the continents on the first Earth so closely resembled the second one/ours? I suppose if humans can evolve on two separate planets--and if there's definite proof of a god--it's not out of the question.
- I hope the soundtrack comes out soooon. Bear outdid himself on this one. They all did. They all did.
That exceeded every expectation I had. I wondered how they were going to pull an ending out of their asses, and they did. With time to spare. They even made the flashbacks semi-relevant.
And Ron Moore, you slippery little bastard, you didn't give us a straight answer at the end, did you? Law of averages, indeed.
I have quite literally four and a half pages of handwritten notes on this thing, so I don't even really know where to start. One thing that jumps out at me is that...I think Ron Moore declared that there is a singular god in the BSGverse? Because Head!Six and Head!Baltar were definitely not hallucinations at the end. (Also, Head!Six and Head!Baltar are ACTUALLY ANGELS. HOLY CRAP.) Also, I think Baltar saved Hera and the human race by talking out his ass in that pivotal scene in C&C? BALTAR SAVED THE HUMAN RACE. AFTER HE HELPED ALMOST DESTROY IT. BALTAR WAS REDEEMED. (And then he goes off an farms with Caprica Six. Because he "knows about farming." I DID NOT EXPECT THAT AT ALL.)
Anyway. You know, I had figured from nearly the beginning that these people were going to find Earth and turn into the Greeks. I see I was tangentially right. Perhaps the most religious people settled in Greece and that's why they kept the gods? Although 145,000-odd years is a long time to keep the same names around. Hmm. Okay, never mind the logic. I liked Hera as mitochondrial Eve. It was one of the few fitting possibilities left for her specialness. Although it doesn't exactly jive with RDM's endorsement of the multiple origin points theory if we're all descended from Hera, does it? Argh, my head. Never mind. (Also, hee, RDM cameo!)
I sobbed like a baby at the Adama/Roslin scenes. The last one, with her grave, killed me, as did her death in the Raptor. Oh, Laura. And Bill. At least she finally saw the promised land. ("Earth is a dream" was awesome, BTW.) But they never got to build their cabin. :( I guess she had to die, finally, because she'd been overdue for years now, but oh...someone needs to write an AU where they build a cabin and live there together for a while. And where he gives her the ring before she dies, dammit.
And now Lee is all alone, because Kara...mysteriously vanished, like a pigeon flying out a window. That scene was very cool, and the mysteriousness of it is attractive, but...I could've used some more answers there. What was she? (Was she an angel, as Leoben said in the flashback? Sam told her he would see her on the other side--is she a Cylon? Does everyone go to heaven?) Was Daniel her father? What was her relationship with Hera? Where did she go? The "angels" at the end made it seem like the choice of world was almost random, because the cycle of robots and death had happened everywhere, but there had to be a reason Kara led them there. (BTW, I KNEW the music would lead them to a new home!)
(Comcast went on the fritz during one of the Kara/Lee flashbacks, so there may have been more background there that I missed. It came back on around the time Kara was saying she didn't want to be forgotten, so I did at least get that resonance.)
I also question whether everyone would seriously have given up all their technology, etc. so willingly. I could almost buy the separating into tiny farming communities, but no tech? Come on. Archaeologists are totally going to dig up alien technology any day now.
I wonder if Lee actually went exploring. Many other people seemed to be getting their wishes, so perhaps he did as well. Anders got to be part of a moment of perfection (and that part also made me cry :(); Saul and Ellen got to be together; Bill is going to build the cabin, albeit without Laura *sniff*; the Agathons got to be a family (and how glad am I that Helo pulled through? I thought he was a goner for sure); Tyrol went away
...Tyrol also killed Tory. I admit, I cackled rather evilly at her talk about how they were going to know each other intimately after touching the datawater, and how they've all done bad things. I figured that would end poorly for her, although I didn't think he would actually kill her. I think they could've used her better overall; her arc ended up being a bit of a disappointment. Although I guess it was necessary in a way to breaking the cycle--if Tyrol hadn't killed her, the Cylons would still have resurrection tech, and Kara would've have had to input her freaky coordinates, so they never would've gone to Earth, or they might have gone but had Cylons on their tail.
Speaking of going to Earth...how did the rest of the fleet get there? Were they able to send a raptor back to the rendezvous and transmit the new coordinates? Did Skulls and Racetrack have something to do with that? (Did they make it back to Galactica after firing the nukes? Did all the Cylons on the Colony perish in that attack?)
So many questions. But one thing they did explain mostly to my satisfaction was the opera house. Baltar and Six were protecting Hera rather than taking her away, apparently? I loved that the opera house was in fact Galactica, and specifically C&C. That intercutting was awesome.
The effects were beautiful. I see what they were saving their money this past half-season for.
Shorter takes:
- Athena shooting Boomer was ICY. Wow. (Boomer's flashback, I think, was the most relevant to the current timeline. The others were nice, but I wouldn't have missed them.)
- Laura sleeping with her former student was pretty icky. Ack.
- Fighting with rather than against the Centurions was so cool. So was the shot of them marching down the hangar.
- Drunk!Adama was not so cool. Although it did bring the following Oscar Wilde quote to my mind: "We are all in the gutter, but some of us are looking at the stars."
- I want an icon with Kara holding the decanter and shot glasses and looking kind of crazy. Hee.
- Oh, Cottle. "Light a cigarette and walk off. Don't spoil your image." Heh.
- "Always looking for new and interesting ways to get killed." Heh.
- Oh, wow. C&C was completely hybridized. Wow.
- HOW THE HELL DID THE PRESIDENTIAL SUCCESSION FALL TO LAMPKIN??! AAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
- Well, I see they did find a place for at least one civilian--Roslin in sickbay. I want to know where the rest of them went to. And oh, Ishay was so businesslike--x's on the heads of those you can't save. I know she had to be, but wow.
- "In the end, it's all about mathematics." And then Boomer kills him and saves Hera, thus disputing that. Although then the angels at the end seem to give it truth...
- Hera needs to stop running around. SERIOUSLY.
- "Please continue stating the perfectly obvious." "You are keeping two civilizations waiting." Ah, Cavil. Snarky to the end. Even if you are the villain, I always liked you.
- Anyone notice how the blue lights in the corridor turned Cylon red when Doral walked by?
- "The Shape of Things to Come"!
- Any thoughts on why the continents on the first Earth so closely resembled the second one/ours? I suppose if humans can evolve on two separate planets--and if there's definite proof of a god--it's not out of the question.
- I hope the soundtrack comes out soooon. Bear outdid himself on this one. They all did. They all did.
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Date: 2009-03-21 01:28 pm (UTC)I think maybe sometime this summer I'll rewatch the finale cause I'm sure there's things I missed. Maybe.