Jaysis, here you go with the OLD again! (Ye gods, was that really so long ago??)
This one you can't blame on me! That's simply the march of time, not me having no experience with things. :D
You might be interested to know that there was quite a bit of controversy over its inclusion in the Musical category since it's in no way a traditional musical.
I saw that on Wikipedia. Apparently they created a new category for stuff like that after it won that year.
Patience, my child.
Well, we found out the answer just a couple episodes later...
He's Caligula.
Ohhhh, yeah. Forgot about him. That would make sense, too. (But if/when you get around to reading the Vorkosigan novels, you'll notice a distinct similarity between Cartagia and Mad Emperor Yuri as well.)
I've never seen I, Claudius.
Really? Something more than "Must eat" or "Mommy" or another idea of its ilk?
Well, that kind of thought was what I was thinking of--"cold," "hungry," "lonely," etc. But that's still thought, and it still precedes language. (Otherwise, why would babies cry? Speaking of which, I remember something from before age eighteen months or so very clearly: I was outside, in my playpen, and it was cold. I didn't have the words to express my annoyance at being cold, so I cried. I don't know if I was completely preverbal at that point or if I knew enough words to know that a word existed for my condition, but I just didn't know it.) You might even be able to convey semi-complex thought with just images and sound--like this short film does. (There are a couple instances of written text, but I'd argue that they aren't needed to understand the story.)
Anyway, back when language was first developing, surely someone had to think (non-verbally), "I want to communicate the idea of 'food' [or whatever] without needing to point to it. Let me associate a sound with it." Thus, language. At least in my uneducated assumption; I await being proven wrong by actual scientists.
Which is why, for the last eight years, every time some new announcement or discovery about the Bush administration came out, I would think/say, "This is bad. Very bad. I know this story. I've seen how it ends. It was on Babylon 5."
Sadly true. Although I suppose we've been compared to the Roman empire for some decades now, so B5 is just a more detailed version of that comparison...
I can't find the article now where he talked about how we need mythic signposts to show us/remind us of the way, but that always seemed to sum the show up to me. A show about spirituality and what life is all about, by an atheist. Helluva thing.
Mmmm. He's very good at transferring Campbell and Jung into a story.
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Date: 2009-04-18 09:59 pm (UTC)This one you can't blame on me! That's simply the march of time, not me having no experience with things. :D
You might be interested to know that there was quite a bit of controversy over its inclusion in the Musical category since it's in no way a traditional musical.
I saw that on Wikipedia. Apparently they created a new category for stuff like that after it won that year.
Patience, my child.
Well, we found out the answer just a couple episodes later...
He's Caligula.
Ohhhh, yeah. Forgot about him. That would make sense, too. (But if/when you get around to reading the Vorkosigan novels, you'll notice a distinct similarity between Cartagia and Mad Emperor Yuri as well.)
I've never seen I, Claudius.
Really? Something more than "Must eat" or "Mommy" or another idea of its ilk?
Well, that kind of thought was what I was thinking of--"cold," "hungry," "lonely," etc. But that's still thought, and it still precedes language. (Otherwise, why would babies cry? Speaking of which, I remember something from before age eighteen months or so very clearly: I was outside, in my playpen, and it was cold. I didn't have the words to express my annoyance at being cold, so I cried. I don't know if I was completely preverbal at that point or if I knew enough words to know that a word existed for my condition, but I just didn't know it.) You might even be able to convey semi-complex thought with just images and sound--like this short film does. (There are a couple instances of written text, but I'd argue that they aren't needed to understand the story.)
Anyway, back when language was first developing, surely someone had to think (non-verbally), "I want to communicate the idea of 'food' [or whatever] without needing to point to it. Let me associate a sound with it." Thus, language. At least in my uneducated assumption; I await being proven wrong by actual scientists.
Which is why, for the last eight years, every time some new announcement or discovery about the Bush administration came out, I would think/say, "This is bad. Very bad. I know this story. I've seen how it ends. It was on Babylon 5."
Sadly true. Although I suppose we've been compared to the Roman empire for some decades now, so B5 is just a more detailed version of that comparison...
I can't find the article now where he talked about how we need mythic signposts to show us/remind us of the way, but that always seemed to sum the show up to me. A show about spirituality and what life is all about, by an atheist. Helluva thing.
Mmmm. He's very good at transferring Campbell and Jung into a story.