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icepixieI found out today that the given name "Susan" comes from the Hebrew word for "lily." Apparently the root of that word is also the root for "joy" (more specifically, to be joyful/bright/cheerful).
You are all laughing along with me, yes? Oh, Susan. *pats*
GROPOS
Despite its heavy-handedness, I like this one for the following two qualities: MOAR FRANKLIN, and for the amount of time people who usually don't interact get to spend with each other (Ivanova and Franklin, Garibaldi and Delenn).
Franklin is just so awesome--a researcher after my own heart. I love how closely he sticks to his principles, too. I worry that this might basically be the only side to his character we see--although as I recall, he does say something to that effect in his stim addiction arc in S3, so I know we do eventually get more on him. But I like what we get so far. *waves pom-poms*
I also like that we get to see him and Ivanova interacting. They do seem to have a lot to talk about in regards to their families.
And Garibaldi and Delenn talking is always kind of a hoot. I'd like to see more of them together as well. (I'm also amusing myself by thinking of exactly how many ways from Sunday Delenn could've kicked Kleist's ass if Dodger hadn't stepped in. I guess she didn't join in the brawl because she didn't want to tip her hand.) And this point is where we really start to see the Human backlash to her new appearance, which I think just confuses the HELL out of her. Here she did something oh-so noble and alienated herself from her own people, and they aren't even GRATEFUL? Heh.
Garibaldi and Dodger...oh, dear. He really put his foot in it, didn't he? I find it fascinating that someone as cynical and pessimistic on the outside can be such a romantic on the inside. (Uh, apparently I find it about 16,000 words of fascinating, or at least that's how many words are in my "Closet Idealism" series so far.) Hence, obviously, he and Susan ought to realize they are made for each other. Oh, canon, why do you thwart me so? *shakes fist*
The stated objective of the military assault--to quell the rebellion so they can keep an EarthForce base near the Narn/Centauri war zone--reminds me rather a lot of the US's interest in the current mess in Kyrgyzstan. And yet I'm not entirely sure why the Humans feel like they're going to need to choose sides in the war. I guess they figure they're eventually going to have a Lusitania-like moment and want to be prepared.
The ending, yes, is over the top. They could've easily left things with Garibaldi and Keffer looking sad as they read the casualty list, rather than the gratuitous shots of the dead bodies. Did anyone really think any of them would make it? Eh, nineties TV, I guess. (I admit, I pretty much spaced out during the Keffer plotline. Feh.)
All Alone in the Night
Oh, Delenn. The Minbari don't like you, either! Neroon even calls you presumptuous! (I thought that was, uh, rather accurate of him.)
You know, the Grey Council and Clark's government are far more alike than I had realized. Both of them are concerned with purity of the species and/or homeworld, and afraid of what being more open will lead to. (I was sort of appalled that Neroon said they would've continued the war if they had known about the transmigration of Minbari souls into Human bodies--perhaps the warriors considered those souls tainted? Or maybe they just figured they'd eventually get reborn back into Minbari bodies once the Humans were wiped out. Come to think of it, I wonder why the religious caste didn't think the same thing...)
Likewise, there's a certain similarity between Sheridan & co. and Clark's government, which General Hague brings into focus when he mentions patriotism. Yes, he and Sheridan and all the rest are patriots, putting the protection of ideals before the service of particular people. But Clark obviously sees what he's doing as a kind of patriotism as well: keeping Earth's government focused on providing services and such for humans rather than for aliens by keeping said aliens off the planet. Obviously he eventually goes mad with power--especially as the Psi Corps sinks their claws in further--but at first, I think he truly does have good intentions. Psi Corps...yeah, I dunno what their deal is. Maybe they just wanted to ride on someone's coattails, and letting Clark go about his isolationism kept him happy enough not to notice he was becoming a puppet.
Anyway, I was talking about Delenn. And with Delenn must come Lennier, or at least that's what he'd have us all believe. ;) Oh, Lennier. I just want to give you a hug and a cookie. And I really wish Delenn could've ended up with you. (Although I seem to be reading their relationship as more friends, with some mentor/student aspects, this time around, perhaps because I've mellowed about Sheridan/Delenn.)
I still don't have a clue what Sheridan's dream is all about. Just...the hell? I guess Ivanova's "Do you know who I am?" refers to her telepathy, which, since it's not referred to after "Divided Loyalties," seems like a lot of mystery for something that turns out not to have much effect in the series. "You are the hand" also can be made some sense of, considering he's leading the war. "The man in between is searching for you," though? And why Garibaldi? Why does Susan have a raven and Garibaldi a dove?
You know when Kosh makes the most sense, something's wrong. "We were never away"--how true, how true.
Bullet points:
- The Strieb being little gray men was pretty hilarious, but was there actually any point to them taking Sheridan besides giving him the opportunity to have that dream? And is it just me, or did their ship remind anyone else of Moya with the color leeched out?
- "Give me a lever big enough and I will move the world." Archimedes, yes, yes, but I was laughing a lot at that one.
- I thought the brief discussion about Mars gravity and its effects on baseball was kind of awesome.
- Does the ejected pilot's pod of a StarFury look an awful lot like a coffin to anyone else?
- After the last scene, I kind of want to write crack!fic where the command staff has a pajama party.
You are all laughing along with me, yes? Oh, Susan. *pats*
GROPOS
Despite its heavy-handedness, I like this one for the following two qualities: MOAR FRANKLIN, and for the amount of time people who usually don't interact get to spend with each other (Ivanova and Franklin, Garibaldi and Delenn).
Franklin is just so awesome--a researcher after my own heart. I love how closely he sticks to his principles, too. I worry that this might basically be the only side to his character we see--although as I recall, he does say something to that effect in his stim addiction arc in S3, so I know we do eventually get more on him. But I like what we get so far. *waves pom-poms*
I also like that we get to see him and Ivanova interacting. They do seem to have a lot to talk about in regards to their families.
And Garibaldi and Delenn talking is always kind of a hoot. I'd like to see more of them together as well. (I'm also amusing myself by thinking of exactly how many ways from Sunday Delenn could've kicked Kleist's ass if Dodger hadn't stepped in. I guess she didn't join in the brawl because she didn't want to tip her hand.) And this point is where we really start to see the Human backlash to her new appearance, which I think just confuses the HELL out of her. Here she did something oh-so noble and alienated herself from her own people, and they aren't even GRATEFUL? Heh.
Garibaldi and Dodger...oh, dear. He really put his foot in it, didn't he? I find it fascinating that someone as cynical and pessimistic on the outside can be such a romantic on the inside. (Uh, apparently I find it about 16,000 words of fascinating, or at least that's how many words are in my "Closet Idealism" series so far.) Hence, obviously, he and Susan ought to realize they are made for each other. Oh, canon, why do you thwart me so? *shakes fist*
The stated objective of the military assault--to quell the rebellion so they can keep an EarthForce base near the Narn/Centauri war zone--reminds me rather a lot of the US's interest in the current mess in Kyrgyzstan. And yet I'm not entirely sure why the Humans feel like they're going to need to choose sides in the war. I guess they figure they're eventually going to have a Lusitania-like moment and want to be prepared.
The ending, yes, is over the top. They could've easily left things with Garibaldi and Keffer looking sad as they read the casualty list, rather than the gratuitous shots of the dead bodies. Did anyone really think any of them would make it? Eh, nineties TV, I guess. (I admit, I pretty much spaced out during the Keffer plotline. Feh.)
All Alone in the Night
Oh, Delenn. The Minbari don't like you, either! Neroon even calls you presumptuous! (I thought that was, uh, rather accurate of him.)
You know, the Grey Council and Clark's government are far more alike than I had realized. Both of them are concerned with purity of the species and/or homeworld, and afraid of what being more open will lead to. (I was sort of appalled that Neroon said they would've continued the war if they had known about the transmigration of Minbari souls into Human bodies--perhaps the warriors considered those souls tainted? Or maybe they just figured they'd eventually get reborn back into Minbari bodies once the Humans were wiped out. Come to think of it, I wonder why the religious caste didn't think the same thing...)
Likewise, there's a certain similarity between Sheridan & co. and Clark's government, which General Hague brings into focus when he mentions patriotism. Yes, he and Sheridan and all the rest are patriots, putting the protection of ideals before the service of particular people. But Clark obviously sees what he's doing as a kind of patriotism as well: keeping Earth's government focused on providing services and such for humans rather than for aliens by keeping said aliens off the planet. Obviously he eventually goes mad with power--especially as the Psi Corps sinks their claws in further--but at first, I think he truly does have good intentions. Psi Corps...yeah, I dunno what their deal is. Maybe they just wanted to ride on someone's coattails, and letting Clark go about his isolationism kept him happy enough not to notice he was becoming a puppet.
Anyway, I was talking about Delenn. And with Delenn must come Lennier, or at least that's what he'd have us all believe. ;) Oh, Lennier. I just want to give you a hug and a cookie. And I really wish Delenn could've ended up with you. (Although I seem to be reading their relationship as more friends, with some mentor/student aspects, this time around, perhaps because I've mellowed about Sheridan/Delenn.)
I still don't have a clue what Sheridan's dream is all about. Just...the hell? I guess Ivanova's "Do you know who I am?" refers to her telepathy, which, since it's not referred to after "Divided Loyalties," seems like a lot of mystery for something that turns out not to have much effect in the series. "You are the hand" also can be made some sense of, considering he's leading the war. "The man in between is searching for you," though? And why Garibaldi? Why does Susan have a raven and Garibaldi a dove?
You know when Kosh makes the most sense, something's wrong. "We were never away"--how true, how true.
Bullet points:
- The Strieb being little gray men was pretty hilarious, but was there actually any point to them taking Sheridan besides giving him the opportunity to have that dream? And is it just me, or did their ship remind anyone else of Moya with the color leeched out?
- "Give me a lever big enough and I will move the world." Archimedes, yes, yes, but I was laughing a lot at that one.
- I thought the brief discussion about Mars gravity and its effects on baseball was kind of awesome.
- Does the ejected pilot's pod of a StarFury look an awful lot like a coffin to anyone else?
- After the last scene, I kind of want to write crack!fic where the command staff has a pajama party.
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Date: 2010-07-06 04:33 am (UTC)And seriously, Keffer. What is up with that guy? EVERY time I see credits for that season I'm like "who- oh, THAT GUY."
And they have a moment of explaining that dream in a later episode, where Susan thinks Sinclair is the Man In Between and Sheridan is The Hand while Anna is His Other Hand or something weird like that. I'm sure it all made total sense to JMS.
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Date: 2010-07-06 04:28 pm (UTC)YES.
And seriously, Keffer. What is up with that guy? EVERY time I see credits for that season I'm like "who- oh, THAT GUY."
Apparently he was the product of network interference. Bah.
And they have a moment of explaining that dream in a later episode, where Susan thinks Sinclair is the Man In Between and Sheridan is The Hand while Anna is His Other Hand or something weird like that. I'm sure it all made total sense to JMS.
Was I just not paying attention when I watched the show for the first time? Man. I remember nothing, apparently.
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Date: 2010-07-06 05:14 am (UTC)I have to admit, I very much like the name "Susan," and have often thought it would be a lovely name to consider giving a kid, if only I was a) sure I wanted kids and b) sure that naming her Susan would not actually curse her. The irony of the root just makes it all the more hilarious.
how many ways from Sunday Delenn could've kicked Kleist's ass if Dodger hadn't stepped in. I guess she didn't join in the brawl because she didn't want to tip her hand.
Yes, this. That must be it. Anything else is just not acceptable.
I find it fascinating that someone as cynical and pessimistic on the outside can be such a romantic on the inside.
Yes, yes, yes. I love Dodger, and this always kills me because Michael and Dodger would have been so adorable together, and it just ends so badly. :(
Neroon even calls you presumptuous! (I thought that was, uh, rather accurate of him.)
Alas, one of the amusing things about Neroon is how often he is right even though the show makes sure he loses. Poor Neroon. He's a jackass, but he knows what's going on around him.
Come to think of it, I wonder why the religious caste didn't think the same thing...
Me too. I've never come up with a suitable answer for that.
I seem to be reading their relationship as more friends, with some mentor/student aspects, this time around, perhaps because I've mellowed about Sheridan/Delenn.
And yes again - at least mostly. I catch myself being a lot more sympathetic to Delenn totally not getting that Lennier's in love with her, and that his feelings grow very slowly. And feeling a lot more sympathetic to Sheridan/Delenn than I was first time. I do love them. I just love Lennier, too. ♥
After the last scene, I kind of want to write crack!fic where the command staff has a pajama party.
♥♥♥ If you need encouragement, bribes, or internet cookies, please do let me know. This must be written!
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Date: 2010-07-06 04:32 pm (UTC)Dodger was great. Alas.
Alas, one of the amusing things about Neroon is how often he is right even though the show makes sure he loses. Poor Neroon. He's a jackass, but he knows what's going on around him.
I suddenly have this vision of Neroon setting up shop as a fortune teller or something. Or maybe having a long bitch session with Wile E. Coyote.
If you need encouragement, bribes, or internet cookies, please do let me know. This must be written!
OMG. It's been forever since I wrote true crack!fic. I'm having some trouble envisioning exactly how I might write this. (Maybe there's...some kind of malfunction with everyone's quarters? Hmmm.)
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Date: 2010-07-06 08:56 pm (UTC)I'm sure in his mind, he's the Cassandra of the Grey Council. ;)
OMG. It's been forever since I wrote true crack!fic. I'm having some trouble envisioning exactly how I might write this. (Maybe there's...some kind of malfunction with everyone's quarters? Hmmm.)
Awwww, it wouldn't even have to be true crack!fic unless you wanted it to be. It could be some kind of crazy computer melt-down that locks everyone out of their quarters, or it could be something EarthForce-y, like the rent situation back during S2... hell, maybe during the war with Clark & co. they find a backdoor into the computer system and play all sorts of hackery "pranks" to disrupt station function as much as possible (there could even be a hand-wave about vital station functions being protected by stronger codes or something). I'm not sure any of that's actually realistically feasible, but something there might be enough for a fic?
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Date: 2010-07-06 11:51 pm (UTC)Oh, you know it.
Awwww, it wouldn't even have to be true crack!fic unless you wanted it to be. It could be some kind of crazy computer melt-down that locks everyone out of their quarters, or it could be something EarthForce-y, like the rent situation back during S2... hell, maybe during the war with Clark & co. they find a backdoor into the computer system and play all sorts of hackery "pranks" to disrupt station function as much as possible (there could even be a hand-wave about vital station functions being protected by stronger codes or something). I'm not sure any of that's actually realistically feasible, but something there might be enough for a fic?
I DO like the idea of some kind of computer malfunction locking them all out of their quarters. Except, I guess, for one of them anyway, because they would need somewhere to actually have the pajama party. And there would have to be something that got all of them out of bed in said pajamas, or they would be in regular clothes. Hmmm...must think on this...
(I have a joke already, though: Ivanova could suggest braiding everyone's hair, then note that this wouldn't really work for anyone but her.)