So, it looks like they're gonna drag this Peterless thing out for what, seven episodes or so?
Thirdhand info suggests more like 3-4 episodes. Also, things seemed to be coming to a head in the S4-in-general preview they showed in lieu of a preview for next week, and I think those kinds of things only have 4-5 episodes to draw from. I'm guessing he'll be back by episode five.
Although I wonder if the Olivia/Fauxlivia dynamic has changed now that the love triangle never happened. Or maybe amber!Olivia is just naturally pissier?
She seemed mostly ticked that Fauxlivia had kidnapped her. (Though why she did such a thing, since Peter no longer exists, remains to be seen.) And I think amber!Olivia is naturally pissier, yeah.
where's the urgency?
That was my problem with it as well. So much urgency in the finale, and then they hit the brakes. Weird. I mean, obviously things aren't as urgent for them as they were for us, since they never knew Peter, but...oof.
Is the Machine not blowing up anymore, since they never had Peter/Henry to put into it? Does nobody wonder how the bridge appeared?
Astrid mentioned that they were lucky the machine hadn't blown everyone up last time they used it. So I guess they used it, but without Peter or Henry...?
I'm confused about the see-through shapeshifters! I'm not sure who Lincoln shot, but that was definitely the dead engaged commuter victim looming ominously at the very end. Zombies indeed!
I did at least recognize her. Yeah, so far I'm not thrilled with this plot. Get some more recognizable actors, and maybe things would work better.
So... erasing September's rescue of Walter and Peter from the frozen lake wasn't effective enough (hence Walter's visions), so now he's trying to make Peter never be born at all?
I thought what Peter did last season made it so he was never born at all. Didn't the observers say that at the very end of the finale (I think the exact wording was that Peter never existed and none of the characters ever knew him)? I think what September was doing--or rather not doing--was trying to erase the flickers of Peter we were getting and Walter was seeing.
Of course, no we have no explanation for how Walter messed up the red universe. Maybe he (or Walternate, this time!) was just screwing around and messed things up inadvertently.
An anvil made of "awwwwwwwww"s!
So soft and cuddly!
And was Olivia so shy of saying "Fringe division" before? Did something happen?
I don't know that she ever really used it before--didn't she just identify herself as being from the FBI? The other FBI types she talked to already knew about Fringe Division.
They still encountered the mercurial shapeshifters, so he still could've died two years prior to this.
But would they have encountered them around the time of the pilot? Olivia said she lost her partner (I'm assuming Charlie) three years ago.
How did they even get him to this level of functionality without Peter??
Well, he never lost Peter in the first place. Maybe that makes a difference?
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Date: 2011-09-24 04:58 am (UTC)Thirdhand info suggests more like 3-4 episodes. Also, things seemed to be coming to a head in the S4-in-general preview they showed in lieu of a preview for next week, and I think those kinds of things only have 4-5 episodes to draw from. I'm guessing he'll be back by episode five.
Although I wonder if the Olivia/Fauxlivia dynamic has changed now that the love triangle never happened. Or maybe amber!Olivia is just naturally pissier?
She seemed mostly ticked that Fauxlivia had kidnapped her. (Though why she did such a thing, since Peter no longer exists, remains to be seen.) And I think amber!Olivia is naturally pissier, yeah.
where's the urgency?
That was my problem with it as well. So much urgency in the finale, and then they hit the brakes. Weird. I mean, obviously things aren't as urgent for them as they were for us, since they never knew Peter, but...oof.
Is the Machine not blowing up anymore, since they never had Peter/Henry to put into it? Does nobody wonder how the bridge appeared?
Astrid mentioned that they were lucky the machine hadn't blown everyone up last time they used it. So I guess they used it, but without Peter or Henry...?
I'm confused about the see-through shapeshifters! I'm not sure who Lincoln shot, but that was definitely the dead engaged commuter victim looming ominously at the very end. Zombies indeed!
I did at least recognize her. Yeah, so far I'm not thrilled with this plot. Get some more recognizable actors, and maybe things would work better.
So... erasing September's rescue of Walter and Peter from the frozen lake wasn't effective enough (hence Walter's visions), so now he's trying to make Peter never be born at all?
I thought what Peter did last season made it so he was never born at all. Didn't the observers say that at the very end of the finale (I think the exact wording was that Peter never existed and none of the characters ever knew him)? I think what September was doing--or rather not doing--was trying to erase the flickers of Peter we were getting and Walter was seeing.
Of course, no we have no explanation for how Walter messed up the red universe. Maybe he (or Walternate, this time!) was just screwing around and messed things up inadvertently.
An anvil made of "awwwwwwwww"s!
So soft and cuddly!
And was Olivia so shy of saying "Fringe division" before? Did something happen?
I don't know that she ever really used it before--didn't she just identify herself as being from the FBI? The other FBI types she talked to already knew about Fringe Division.
They still encountered the mercurial shapeshifters, so he still could've died two years prior to this.
But would they have encountered them around the time of the pilot? Olivia said she lost her partner (I'm assuming Charlie) three years ago.
How did they even get him to this level of functionality without Peter??
Well, he never lost Peter in the first place. Maybe that makes a difference?