Fringe 4.02: "One Night in October"
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icepixieI liked this one a lot more than last week! Not that I didn't like last week, but it had the awkwardness of a pilot--since we're seeing newish versions of these characters--and moments of confusion that weren't necessarily meant to be confusing. Anyway, this worked better all around for me. Mostly, I think, because I kind of loved Olivia working with the alternate Fringe team. Her and Fauxlivia not fighting was actually really fun! As was her and AltLincoln. I'd actually love to see more of this.
I do have to wonder why they're spending all this time on monster of the week cases, though. I mean, two universes destroying themselves vs. a serial killer...serial killer's bad, sure, but I would think "saving the universes" is a bit higher priority. Shouldn't Walter, at least, be working on fixing things in the lab? I am very confused!
Anyway. Shorter things:
This Walter seems even more unhappy than...Peterful? Walter about Olivia's abduction. Maybe she was even more like a daughter to him since he didn't have a son.
...Okay, that attribution is just ghastly, so from here on, I'm going to refer to the universes like so:
Our side, with Peter: Blue
Our side, without Peter: Cyan
Their side, with Peter: Red
Their side, without Peter: Pink
The bridge: Yellow or amber
Back to the episode: aw, Lincoln got clued in! And BWAHAHAHAHA to Walter referring to him as Kennedy! Please let him keep doing this with different presidents!
Awww, poor Walter, scared of any reflective surface.
I'm really loving how cyan universe Olivia and Astrid are so much closer. Can we keep this dynamic when Peter comes back? Because really, it makes me SO. HAPPY.
Although Astrid shipping Olivia and Lincoln is a bit odd. I have to admit, from the way Olivia & co. seemed to talk about his "great loss" of a partner last time, I was sort of wondering if this Lincoln is gay and had an unrequited crush on his partner. (I also wonder if AltLincoln might start transferring his feelings for Fauxlivia to Ourlivia, since she's still with Frank. That could be fun...)
"Maybe your type just doesn't exist." Show, I should wag my finger at you for that anvil, but it's so cute that I can't bring myself to do it. (Other shows I watch, you should take notes on how to drop your anvils!)
Okay, I think I missed something here: did they say that Fauxlivia made the bridge when she was over here? I think Lincoln was trying to repeat back an explanation or something, but I either wasn't listening carefully enough or they left something out. Did we get an explanation for why the bridge is there even though Peter never existed?
Oh oh oh, AltBroyles is alive! Yay! I have a feeling he won't last the season, though.
Oh, Fauxlivia, that was NOT the right thing to say. No need to remind poor Ourlivia about taking over her life.
Awww, Lincoln is totally still crushing on Fauxlivia. He's kind of adorable. I definitely like him better than his counterpart.
The two blonde Olivias in identical suits standing next to each other, but still very obviously different people just from the way they were standing was simultaneously one of the weirdest and most amazing things I've ever seen. Anna Torv is INCREDIBLE.
Heh, Walter looks like he should be advertising stereo speakers or something.
Yeeeeah, the moment I saw the photo album on the table, I figured the guest character would see a picture of himself or his family or something. BTW, just me, or did the actor look a whole lot like Michael Shanks circa 1999?
"Mrs. Bug Lady." Awwwwwwww, Scarlie got married!
Oh, man, team, you just ruined this guy's life. Now he knows he has the potential to be a serial killer. That's gotta screw you up. (Although of course further into the episode, we learn he at least knew that before...)
Shouldn't have have left the guy alone...whoops.
Uuuuuggghhh, stop with the swirly cam in the Fringe Division control room!
OMG, Cyan Ourlivia actually killed her stepdad! Wait, so did not meeting Peter as a kid turn her down that road? Because that's the only thing that would have changed. Dammit, show, I wanted to leave that episode as uncanon as possible, because it was dumb!
And that's definitely something Fauxlivia didn't pick up from living Ourlivia's life for a few months...
(I want a few scenes where they just chill together in a coffee shop or something, because I am really enjoying them as wary allies who might, if things go well, one day become something like friends. Show, can you do this for me? Because I really need to see it. Astrid should come too.)
I don't quite understand what the serial killer was doing. He was...experiencing their memories? But he needed to use antifreeze to do it? And it left them either dead or with holes in their memories where he'd accessed them? Okay, whatever, a macguffin, but I also don't understand why, if he experienced the memories of 20+ people before and made them his own, he never hit upon something like compassion and had his freakout about how he could now understand that he was hurting people. I know it serves the story that it was his doppelganger's memory that cracked him, but logically I don't follow it. (Although...in that memory, did she find some animals his doppelganger had killed or something and then forgive him? I couldn't quite tell what was in that box she opened, but if that was it, I suppose it makes more sense.)
Hmmm, how convenient that the professor doesn't remember going to the alternate universe. Too bad about Marjorie, though. I totally figured he would become a serial killer--he had that flat voice that seems to indicate it on TV--but then they surprised me at the end.
Awwwww, sentimental Broyles! "Some people leave an indelible mark on your soul." Which is called PETER. Again, show, I should be annoyed at the anvils, but all I can do is sit here and coo.
Peter talked to Walter! OMG YAY! Keep trying, Peter, you'll get through eventually!!!
In the preview, was that Darren Tyler at the very beginning? IMDB doesn't say anything about it, but I think it was! Oh, I'm really looking forward to next week now! (Exclamation point!)
I do have to wonder why they're spending all this time on monster of the week cases, though. I mean, two universes destroying themselves vs. a serial killer...serial killer's bad, sure, but I would think "saving the universes" is a bit higher priority. Shouldn't Walter, at least, be working on fixing things in the lab? I am very confused!
Anyway. Shorter things:
This Walter seems even more unhappy than...Peterful? Walter about Olivia's abduction. Maybe she was even more like a daughter to him since he didn't have a son.
...Okay, that attribution is just ghastly, so from here on, I'm going to refer to the universes like so:
Our side, with Peter: Blue
Our side, without Peter: Cyan
Their side, with Peter: Red
Their side, without Peter: Pink
The bridge: Yellow or amber
Back to the episode: aw, Lincoln got clued in! And BWAHAHAHAHA to Walter referring to him as Kennedy! Please let him keep doing this with different presidents!
Awww, poor Walter, scared of any reflective surface.
I'm really loving how cyan universe Olivia and Astrid are so much closer. Can we keep this dynamic when Peter comes back? Because really, it makes me SO. HAPPY.
Although Astrid shipping Olivia and Lincoln is a bit odd. I have to admit, from the way Olivia & co. seemed to talk about his "great loss" of a partner last time, I was sort of wondering if this Lincoln is gay and had an unrequited crush on his partner. (I also wonder if AltLincoln might start transferring his feelings for Fauxlivia to Ourlivia, since she's still with Frank. That could be fun...)
"Maybe your type just doesn't exist." Show, I should wag my finger at you for that anvil, but it's so cute that I can't bring myself to do it. (Other shows I watch, you should take notes on how to drop your anvils!)
Okay, I think I missed something here: did they say that Fauxlivia made the bridge when she was over here? I think Lincoln was trying to repeat back an explanation or something, but I either wasn't listening carefully enough or they left something out. Did we get an explanation for why the bridge is there even though Peter never existed?
Oh oh oh, AltBroyles is alive! Yay! I have a feeling he won't last the season, though.
Oh, Fauxlivia, that was NOT the right thing to say. No need to remind poor Ourlivia about taking over her life.
Awww, Lincoln is totally still crushing on Fauxlivia. He's kind of adorable. I definitely like him better than his counterpart.
The two blonde Olivias in identical suits standing next to each other, but still very obviously different people just from the way they were standing was simultaneously one of the weirdest and most amazing things I've ever seen. Anna Torv is INCREDIBLE.
Heh, Walter looks like he should be advertising stereo speakers or something.
Yeeeeah, the moment I saw the photo album on the table, I figured the guest character would see a picture of himself or his family or something. BTW, just me, or did the actor look a whole lot like Michael Shanks circa 1999?
"Mrs. Bug Lady." Awwwwwwww, Scarlie got married!
Oh, man, team, you just ruined this guy's life. Now he knows he has the potential to be a serial killer. That's gotta screw you up. (Although of course further into the episode, we learn he at least knew that before...)
Shouldn't have have left the guy alone...whoops.
Uuuuuggghhh, stop with the swirly cam in the Fringe Division control room!
OMG, Cyan Ourlivia actually killed her stepdad! Wait, so did not meeting Peter as a kid turn her down that road? Because that's the only thing that would have changed. Dammit, show, I wanted to leave that episode as uncanon as possible, because it was dumb!
And that's definitely something Fauxlivia didn't pick up from living Ourlivia's life for a few months...
(I want a few scenes where they just chill together in a coffee shop or something, because I am really enjoying them as wary allies who might, if things go well, one day become something like friends. Show, can you do this for me? Because I really need to see it. Astrid should come too.)
I don't quite understand what the serial killer was doing. He was...experiencing their memories? But he needed to use antifreeze to do it? And it left them either dead or with holes in their memories where he'd accessed them? Okay, whatever, a macguffin, but I also don't understand why, if he experienced the memories of 20+ people before and made them his own, he never hit upon something like compassion and had his freakout about how he could now understand that he was hurting people. I know it serves the story that it was his doppelganger's memory that cracked him, but logically I don't follow it. (Although...in that memory, did she find some animals his doppelganger had killed or something and then forgive him? I couldn't quite tell what was in that box she opened, but if that was it, I suppose it makes more sense.)
Hmmm, how convenient that the professor doesn't remember going to the alternate universe. Too bad about Marjorie, though. I totally figured he would become a serial killer--he had that flat voice that seems to indicate it on TV--but then they surprised me at the end.
Awwwww, sentimental Broyles! "Some people leave an indelible mark on your soul." Which is called PETER. Again, show, I should be annoyed at the anvils, but all I can do is sit here and coo.
Peter talked to Walter! OMG YAY! Keep trying, Peter, you'll get through eventually!!!
In the preview, was that Darren Tyler at the very beginning? IMDB doesn't say anything about it, but I think it was! Oh, I'm really looking forward to next week now! (Exclamation point!)
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Date: 2011-10-01 06:38 pm (UTC)serial killer's bad, sure, but I would think "saving the universes" is a bit higher priority.
Yyyyyup. Nice that they had Broyles explain that "science division" is working on it, but... I guess Walter's so caught up in the haunting that his own work on the shapeshifters isn't going anywhere. And he doesn't have Peter to focus him. : ( I'm surprised Astrid and Olivia aren't pushing him about it, though.
This Walter seems even more unhappy than...Peterful? Walter about Olivia's abduction.
Eh, I didn't really see that. Remember Blue!Walter's rant about Fauxlivia? This was basically a repeat of it, minus the Evil Vagenda. I do like that Astrid's taken over some of Peter's reverse-parenting, though. Any excuse for more of Astrid and Walter interacting is a good thing!
And BWAHAHAHAHA to Walter referring to him as Kennedy!
I love that this implies Walter's mnemonic for Lincoln is "the assassinated one." I hope that wasn't foreshadowing!
Awww, poor Walter, scared of any reflective surface.
It's very Jewish-mourning of him...
Although Astrid shipping Olivia and Lincoln is a bit odd.
I get the impression that this is one of a long string of prods. I too read our!Lincoln as a bit gay, possibly because of the parallels they drew between Lincoln/Robert and Olivia/John Scott. The bromance angle is equally plausible, though. And alt!Lincoln/amber!livia... yeah, I see that coming, too.
"Maybe your type just doesn't exist." Show, I should wag my finger at you for that anvil, but it's so cute that I can't bring myself to do it.
They fall so gracefully, and land with little "plink"s! Seriously, why can't Castle be more like this?
Okay, I think I missed something here: did they say that Fauxlivia made the bridge when she was over here?
Wait, what? I didn't hear that! But yeah, I'm still wondering how the bridge was created, if they didn't have Peter. That's too big to be handwaved.
Oh, Fauxlivia, that was NOT the right thing to say.
That was TAUNTING. And then the smirk! So evil! I love it!
The two blonde Olivias in identical suits standing next to each other, but still very obviously different people just from the way they were standing was simultaneously one of the weirdest and most amazing things I've ever seen. Anna Torv is INCREDIBLE.
I KNOW, RIGHT?? And when Lincoln went to get Fauxlivia and found them together, you could see his eyes flick between them for a split second, but then he was all, "Aha! This one!" without them having to say anything. And Fauxlivia's little grump!flail out of her jacket buttons was just perfect.
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Date: 2011-10-01 06:39 pm (UTC)BTW, just me, or did the actor look a whole lot like Michael Shanks circa 1999?
...That is correct.
"Mrs. Bug Lady." Awwwwwwww, Scarlie got married!
Were we supposed to take that literally? That's awful fast. But the fact that they're still together is adorable. Now we just need Scarlie back on screen to make things even awesomer!
OMG, Cyan Ourlivia actually killed her stepdad!
OMG!! Now I have to go back and watch that stupid episode a second time, arg! So many things are referencing it this season!
And that's definitely something Fauxlivia didn't pick up from living Ourlivia's life for a few months...
Well, probably no one knows about it, except maybe Walter and Astrid. I wonder how the cortexiphan arc went down without Peter in it? Did Olivia still have to open the Machine? Can she use her powers without Peter?
as wary allies who might, if things go well, one day become something like friends.
Awww!
I know it serves the story that it was his doppelganger's memory that cracked him, but logically I don't follow it.
I guess he was... stealing memories, trying to get at happiness vicariously? And the hypothermia was a side-effect of the mad-science. I guess his doppelganger's memories were close enough to his own worldview to "click" somehow and let him see how he could change. (And yeah, she found his box of dead animals, like his dad did, but she told him it was okay, and he had alternate choices, which I guess had never occurred to him before.)
"Some people leave an indelible mark on your soul." Which is called PETER.
Awwwww! And yet... this Olivia is still different from Blue!Olivia, so what's the mark? The sense of absence? That's a sucky mark. Amber!livia did seem less cold this week, except for when she interacted with Fauxlivia, but I think that's the same cringe-y anger/inferiority that Blulivia showed in the same situations.
Peter talked to Walter! OMG YAY!
And I get the impression that that wasn't the first auditory attempt, what with the blasting Mozart at the beginning...
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Date: 2011-10-02 04:39 am (UTC)...To be fair, last week's case had more to do with the arc than this one did--at least, I assume the skinjob shapeshifters are going to be important later on--and yet this one felt much more important. I think maybe it was that this one felt more emotionally important? I dunno. Better, though!
(Cyan/Pink? btw, "cyan" = adorable)
I was quite pleased with that.
Nice that they had Broyles explain that "science division" is working on it, but...
Oh, I missed that totally. At least they gave a nod to it; that makes me feel better.
I'm surprised Astrid and Olivia aren't pushing him about it, though.
Maybe they don't yet know how fragile things are? Although we saw a big ambered-over patch in Pink Universe, so presumably things are still pretty dire.
Eh, I didn't really see that. Remember Blue!Walter's rant about Fauxlivia? This was basically a repeat of it, minus the Evil Vagenda.
Maybe...honestly, I don't remember it very well. Large chunks of the previous seasons are a bit of a blur to me. /o\ (If I hadn't canceled my Netflix subscription, I might rewatch! I think I missed a lot of details in my marathoning of the first 2.25 seasons.)
I love that this implies Walter's mnemonic for Lincoln is "the assassinated one." I hope that wasn't foreshadowing!
I...could live with that, actually. This Lincoln's never made much of an impression on me.
I get the impression that this is one of a long string of prods.
I got the same impression. My headcanon for Astrid is that she has a long-term girlfriend, and just wants Olivia to be happy like she is.
I too read our!Lincoln as a bit gay, possibly because of the parallels they drew between Lincoln/Robert and Olivia/John Scott.
That might have been part of it, yeah. My gaydar was definitely going off, however they actually intended it.
And alt!Lincoln/amber!livia... yeah, I see that coming, too.
I think it would be kind of hilarious if Pink!Lincoln tries to come on to Cyan!Olivia, and she's just like, "Sorry, you're cute, but no." And then he could rage against the universe because no Olivia will love him.
They fall so gracefully, and land with little "plink"s! Seriously, why can't Castle be more like this?
It would be so nice if they could!
Wait, what? I didn't hear that!
People at TWOP suggest that what was they actually said was that Faux was over in Cyanverse to get the other parts of the machine that were buried, and she/Fringe Division built it over on their side. Which still doesn't explain how the bridge was created. What I want to know is, do they know how it was made, or are they as clueless as we are?
That was TAUNTING. And then the smirk! So evil! I love it!
She's such a twit. But for some reason, I kind of enjoy her as a twit.
I KNOW, RIGHT?? And when Lincoln went to get Fauxlivia and found them together, you could see his eyes flick between them for a split second, but then he was all, "Aha! This one!" without them having to say anything.
Because it is totally obvious!
And Fauxlivia's little grump!flail out of her jacket buttons was just perfect.
Hehehehe, yes. "I WILL NOT BE CONSTRAINED BY YOUR STRANGE BUSINESS WEAR!" Did poor Ourlivia have to go out and buy an identical suit for her doppelganger? Or did the/the FBI buy two suits special just for that assignment?
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Date: 2011-10-02 04:54 am (UTC)Curse LJ and its character limits!
...That is correct.
Glad it wasn't just me.
Were we supposed to take that literally? That's awful fast.
Maybe it was a shotgun wedding? I think it's mostly just to make an excuse for why Scarlie isn't there, since Kirk Acevedo is on Prime Suspect now. (Although IMDB has him listed for the fourth episode!)
OMG!! Now I have to go back and watch that stupid episode a second time, arg! So many things are referencing it this season!
Actually, I think the only time she mentions nearly killing her step-dad is in that episode in S1 with the birthday cards. That stupid episode with the kids only has him hitting her and her telling Walter(nate) about it.
Well, probably no one knows about it, except maybe Walter and Astrid.
I wonder if they even know about it. It seems like the only person she ever told was Peter.
I wonder how the cortexiphan arc went down without Peter in it? Did Olivia still have to open the Machine? Can she use her powers without Peter?
THINGS WE NEED ANSWERS TO! Though I bet she can't use her powers without Peter. That was such a huge part of the ending trilogy last season, and it's been there in subtle ways ever since "Ability" in S1, so I don't think they'd erase it now.
I guess he was... stealing memories, trying to get at happiness vicariously? And the hypothermia was a side-effect of the mad-science. I guess his doppelganger's memories were close enough to his own worldview to "click" somehow and let him see how he could change.
That seems plausible. I wish they'd had the serial killer say something besides "now I understand what I took from them," because it seems like seeing the victims' memories would be more likely to elicit that reaction. But eh, I see what they were going for.
(And yeah, she found his box of dead animals, like his dad did, but she told him it was okay, and he had alternate choices, which I guess had never occurred to him before.)
Ahhhhh, that makes sense.
Awwwww! And yet... this Olivia is still different from Blue!Olivia, so what's the mark? The sense of absence? That's a sucky mark.
I think it is supposed to be a sense of absence; what little I've gleaned from the producers over the interwebs is that this is their intention. I think the idea is that because the machine made it so that Peter never existed, rather than there...never being a Peter to be removed from existence in the first place?, everyone in the Cyan and Pinkverses aren't the same as people in a universe where Peter...well, organically, I guess, never existed. If that makes sense. I think the idea effect is supposed to be like when Ourlivia was mind-controlled to believe she was Fauxlivia, but she still knew something was wrong, even if she couldn't put her finger on it. Only more subtle, maybe.
...Okay, that was a terrible explanation, but it made sense when I read what the producers had to say about it. I'll see if I can dig up a link that's not too spoily.
And I get the impression that that wasn't the first auditory attempt, what with the blasting Mozart at the beginning...
Indeed, indeed...
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Date: 2011-10-06 02:58 am (UTC)Yeah, in retrospect, probably, BUT RIGHT NOW I HAVE OTHER NEEEEDS.
Maybe they don't yet know how fragile things are?
Maybe without Peter, things aren't dire? Maybe both Machines are off, and spacetime isn't breaking, and everybody feels like they can meander to a solution? Hmph.
honestly, I don't remember it very well.
GASP! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi8ZFyxs2gk)
You canceled Netflix? What, because of the price hikes? Did you replace it with anything? (I got season 3 by... not Netflix, so I rewatched quite a bit.)
I...could live with that, actually.
As long as we get to keep at least one Lincoln!
My headcanon for Astrid is that she has a long-term girlfriend, and just wants Olivia to be happy like she is.
Awwwwww, one very long-suffering girlfriend!
And then he could rage against the universe because no Olivia will love him.
Lol, infinite Olivias in infinite universes, and every last one of them will just pat him on the head and draft him for babysitting duty!
People at TWOP suggest that what was they actually said was that Faux was over in Cyanverse to get the other parts of the machine that were buried, and she/Fringe Division built it over on their side.
Right, right, it's hard to remember that even Red!Fauxlivia's original purpose was to steal parts, not destroy Olivia's personal life.
What I want to know is, do they know how it was made, or are they as clueless as we are?
So many good questions!!
But for some reason, I kind of enjoy her as a twit.
I know! Evil, but fun!
"I WILL NOT BE CONSTRAINED BY YOUR STRANGE BUSINESS WEAR!"
Bwah! "I STILL DON'T SEE WHY CARGO PANTS AND LEATHER JACKETS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITUATION. I HAVE PLENTY OF EXTRAS."
Or did the/the FBI buy two suits special just for that assignment?
I have a feeling the team's official budget has increased considerably since the beginning...
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Date: 2011-10-06 03:12 am (UTC)OH NO! Kirk Acevedo, how dare your awesomeness be recognized by career developments!! Come baaaaack!
That stupid episode with the kids only has him hitting her and her telling Walter(nate) about it.
...which I realized after watching it. Sigh.
I wonder if they even know about it. It seems like the only person she ever told was Peter.
Hm, I guess you're right, she only ever tells Walter personal things as a by-product of telling them to Peter. And she and amber!Astrid don't seem that close.
Though I bet she can't use her powers without Peter.
Yeah, if they changed that they'd have some maaaaaaaajor explaining to do. Like, show-breaking explaining.
I wish they'd had the serial killer say something besides "now I understand what I took from them,"
Yeah, that exposition could've been a lot more helpful.
If that makes sense.
...so amber!verse is supposed to be Peterless, but with the eraser-rubbings still on it? As opposed to a universe where Peter never needed to be erased? Hm...
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Date: 2011-10-06 03:13 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-06 07:51 pm (UTC)Well, last week the professor saw a giant amber edifice at the end of the serial killer's street, so we know there are still vortexes on that side, at least. Perhaps it's not so bad on our side yet, though, and maybe there isn't an apocalypse actively happening yet...
GASP!
Hehehehe. Maybe it seemed less impassioned because Walter's rage was muffled by mouthfuls of pastry.
You canceled Netflix? What, because of the price hikes? Did you replace it with anything?
Lack of interest rather than the price hike. My queue just got shorter and shorter, and I couldn't think of anything to add to it. I'm going to make my own list of stuff I want to see over the next year or so, and then come back.
(I got season 3 by... not Netflix, so I rewatched quite a bit.)
I generally watched them again the next day via Hulu, but beyond that I haven't rewatched. I think I might need to buy S2 at some point, though. So many important things!
Awwwwww, one very long-suffering girlfriend!
Very, very long-suffering!
Lol, infinite Olivias in infinite universes, and every last one of them will just pat him on the head and draft him for babysitting duty!
YES!
Right, right, it's hard to remember that even Red!Fauxlivia's original purpose was to steal parts, not destroy Olivia's personal life.
Exactly. I keep forgetting about that too.
Bwah! "I STILL DON'T SEE WHY CARGO PANTS AND LEATHER JACKETS ARE NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITUATION. I HAVE PLENTY OF EXTRAS."
"DIDN'T YOU NOTICE EVERYONE ELSE IN MY ORGANIZATION WEARING SUITS? GET WITH THE PROGRAM, LADY."
I have a feeling the team's official budget has increased considerably since the beginning...
Well, after that time in S2 when they were nearly shut down, anyway... (I have a feeling they operate under Magical Budget Expansion. Your tax dollars at work!)
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Date: 2011-10-06 07:53 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-06 08:01 pm (UTC)NOOOOOOO! Although I read that he thinks he's going to be able to do three or four episodes this season, as his schedule allows.
...which I realized after watching it. Sigh.
Awwwww.
Hm, I guess you're right, she only ever tells Walter personal things as a by-product of telling them to Peter. And she and amber!Astrid don't seem that close.
I wish she and any!Astrid were closer. Sigh.
Yeah, if they changed that they'd have some maaaaaaaajor explaining to do. Like, show-breaking explaining.
Yup yup. DESTINY does not care about your silly timeline-changing antics!
...so amber!verse is supposed to be Peterless, but with the eraser-rubbings still on it? As opposed to a universe where Peter never needed to be erased? Hm...
Yes, that is an excellent metaphor! That seems to be exactly what they're going for.
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Date: 2011-10-07 03:07 am (UTC)Ohohoh, and something I just realized: You know how we declared that episode uncanon? I think this is the first time anything I've watched has had the writers declare a stupid episode uncanon as well! Fringe is truly one of the best of all shows! :D
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Date: 2011-10-07 08:01 pm (UTC)Well, back when we first met Red!universe, the cracks seemed to be fairly controllable, too. I guess the Machines aren't on? Active apocalypses do have a way of getting the lead out, yes...
Maybe it seemed less impassioned because Walter's rage was muffled by mouthfuls of pastry.
Ha, no amount of pastry can fully muffle the Walter!rage!
My queue just got shorter and shorter, and I couldn't think of anything to add to it.
...REALLY? Have you reached the end of the internet, too? My queue hasn't fallen below 65 in years. Partially because Netflix's recommendations have a decently high rate of accuracy. I've gotten a lot of really good stuff I'd never heard of before, just from their recommendation system.
I think I might need to buy S2 at some point, though. So many important things!
It's often under $19 on Amazon! (And... S4 is already available for pre-order?)
"DIDN'T YOU NOTICE EVERYONE ELSE IN MY ORGANIZATION WEARING SUITS? GET WITH THE PROGRAM, LADY."
"THIS SUIT JACKET IS EXACTLY WHY YOU ARE UNIVERSE 'B' AND WE ARE UNIVERSE 'A.'"
Your tax dollars at work!
Well, to be fair, they ARE saving the universe(s).
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Date: 2011-10-07 08:07 pm (UTC)Yay Scarlie!!
I wish she and any!Astrid were closer. Sigh.
Not every show can be chock full of femslash. Poor Becca!
Yup yup. DESTINY does not care about your silly timeline-changing antics!
This is about FEELINGS, not the laws of physics!
Yes, that is an excellent metaphor!
Thank you! NOW WE CAN HAS PETER??
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Date: 2011-10-07 08:08 pm (UTC)Whaaaaa?
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Date: 2011-10-07 10:50 pm (UTC)Heh, for certain values of "controllable." Didn't they say they were getting worse?
I guess the Machines aren't on?
Or maybe they are, but they've been repurposed to make that bridge. (I want to know if every time Olivia, Lincoln, or Broyles goes through that bridge, does someone from the other universe have to sit for a while on our side to balance out the mass? If you got to just hang out in the alternate-to-you universe instead of having to sit at Massive Dynamic or wherever, that would be the coolest job ever.)
...REALLY? Have you reached the end of the internet, too?
There are some days I stare at a blank Firefox page and wonder...
Partially because Netflix's recommendations have a decently high rate of accuracy. I've gotten a lot of really good stuff I'd never heard of before, just from their recommendation system.
The recommendations are very hit or miss for me. Sometimes they recommend awesome stuff (Burn Notice was one of theirs), but sometimes it's just terrible. Part of it is I've never really been into movies, more TV, and when I get into a TV show I like to obsess about it for a while before moving on. I would go on to the next thing in my queue, which was totally unrelated, and not be able to get into it at all. Plus I seem to have a crapload of shows to watch this year anyway, so I felt like I was spending all my time watching TV.
It's often under $19 on Amazon!
I know! So tempted...
(And... S4 is already available for pre-order?)
Heh. Of course it is; that's probably where they make most of their money.
Well, to be fair, they ARE saving the universe(s).
True, true. And actually, a lot of it is probably Massive Dynamic's money at work...
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Date: 2011-10-07 11:01 pm (UTC)Awww. I actually don't slash Olivia and Astrid (maybe noir!Olivia and Esther...), but I wish they seemed like better friends. It's not like they can really confide in anyone else but Peter and Walter...
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Date: 2011-10-07 11:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-10 03:08 am (UTC)Well, Fauxlivia and Lincoln were all, "Lolzers amber protocol we're gonna die in fifteen seconds! Haha like that'd ever happen!" so it can't have been too pressing back then.
does someone from the other universe have to sit for a while on our side to balance out the mass? If you got to just hang out in the alternate-to-you universe instead of having to sit at Massive Dynamic or wherever, that would be the coolest job ever.
Like seat-fillers at the Oscars!
There are some days I stare at a blank Firefox page and wonder...
Noooooooooo that is what blog bookmarks are forrrrrrrr!
The recommendations are very hit or miss for me.
I've found they do get better as I feed them more ratings. I still get some completely wrong ones, though. (You reminded me I need to pick my next movie tonight, and I found a new British dark comedy right at the top of the recommendations list! Oh, technology!)
Plus I seem to have a crapload of shows to watch this year anyway, so I felt like I was spending all my time watching TV.
True, true. I'm having to pare down my shows this fall, just because I don't want to spend all my free time on tv. (And thus endeth Body of Proof.)
Of course it is; that's probably where they make most of their money.
I dunno, I hope Ford's paying them a boatload for all that loving product placement.
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Date: 2011-10-10 03:11 am (UTC)Yeah, it's sad that Nina's so often the one to pass the Bechdel test, when Astrid's right there! All the time! And yet.
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Date: 2011-10-10 03:12 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-10-10 10:02 pm (UTC)Oddly, I found that they got better and better until they hit a certain point (~350ish), at which point they got worse. It was like they'd recommended everything I would actually like, and then just throwing things up to see if they'd stick.
I feel like it might be me rather than them, though, because for all that I get very invested in particular media, my tastes are very specific. Also, a lot of what I like depends on coming to it at just the right time; if I'm in the mood for sci-fi humor, even the most amazing angsty drama isn't going to do much for me at that moment.
(And thus endeth Body of Proof.)
Of course, that one should probably just be dropped whether you have time for it or not... (Although this week we do get to meet Peter's sisters. I have to admit I'm looking forward to that.)
I hope Ford's paying them a boatload for all that loving product placement.
True, true.
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Date: 2011-10-13 02:05 am (UTC)Aw, man, first you reach the end of the internet, then you hit the end of all published dvds...
I know what you mean about moods, though. Usually I have to go through my 60-odd dvds and think, "no, no, no, not that one, no, or that one either, no, I'm not feeling that one..."
(Although this week we do get to meet Peter's sisters. I have to admit I'm looking forward to that.)
NOOOOOOOO DON'T TEMPT ME I'M GETTING OOOOOUUUUUTTTTTT!
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Date: 2011-10-13 06:05 pm (UTC)The world needs to make more media that caters to my tastes!
my 60-odd dvds
*boggle*
NOOOOOOOO DON'T TEMPT ME I'M GETTING OOOOOUUUUUTTTTTT!
BUT THIS ONE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD! AND IT WAS REALLY SHIPPY! ALSO THERE WAS ETHAN BEING ADORABLE!
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Date: 2011-10-15 12:55 am (UTC)If only!
*boggle*
Being limited to two a month helps...
BUT THIS ONE WAS ACTUALLY GOOD! AND IT WAS REALLY SHIPPY! ALSO THERE WAS ETHAN BEING ADORABLE!
NOOOOOOOOO I'VE MADE MY ESCAPE!!!
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Date: 2011-10-15 04:06 am (UTC)Well, ABC, perhaps because it realized the show is bleeding viewers and wants to create actual interest again, posted the relevant scene. Go forth and admire the cuteness!
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Date: 2011-10-16 03:37 am (UTC):::watches:::
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!
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Date: 2011-10-16 07:41 pm (UTC)