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icepixieFirst of all, happy 11/11/11, everyone!
Aiiiieeee, this episode! How do they manage to pack so much awesome into one hour?
The opening was...pretty much my favorite part, yeah. So, SO glad they gave us this rather than leaving us to twist completely in the wind in re: Peter/Olivia. And it was so sweeeeeet! With them in the grass and Walter playing on the swings and and and pleeeeeeeease let this happen for real someday!
So, er, in his dreams does Peter not remember which hand a wedding ring goes on, or was there a technical reason for them to mirror the image? Whoops.
I was at first thinking it might be a memory from future!blue!timeline, but IIRC Walter was locked up by the time Peter and Olivia got married, so apparently not. I was so hoping that Olivia's dreams of Peter would've been the same as his dreams of her, but it seems not to be. Too bad.
You could really see Anna Torv transition from playing Bluelivia to Amberlivia when she said "there's a problem," couldn't you? ALL THE AWARDS.
And then Peter wakes up in his little cell. He doesn't even have a blanket! :(
Hmmm, so with the time events, are we getting to the point on Amberworld where they're going to have to go public about fringe events like Redworld did? I know they stopped what was causing these particular ones, but as Peter said, he seems to be the ultimate cause of them, and he's not going away.
"Walter's made it pretty clear he doesn't want anything to do with you." SADFACE.
Hey, look, there's some evidence of cross-universe interaction! Hee, Amber gets technology from Red. Even if it's poorly-documented.
Awww, Peter's new wardrobe just makes him look even more alone and sad in this world that doesn't remember him. As does Walter calling him "the subject." And "it"! And then snatching the book away from him! Oh, Peter.
I'd read that they wanted to return to Peter's genius roots, and I see they managed to do it this time. That was always a bit of an informed characteristic, so I'm glad they're actually making use of it.
Awww, Olivia's the Walter Whisperer now while Peter stands by and looks vaguely peeved.
Hmmm, so Peter didn't know about his appearances. I really want to know where he was and what he was doing in those three weeks between changing the timeline and showing back up. Observer hell?
ARRGGGHHH, dammit, Lincoln, why did you have to interrupt just when Peter was about to tell her they used to be together?! Go wait outside until he's finished!
"This is gonna start getting annoying." Peterrrrr, I missed your snark! Also your general working-with-Olivianess. Things feel kind of like they've gone back to normal! That was totally the missing ingredient in this universe!
Awww, Peter's stuck in the back of the car while Lincoln gets shotgun. :(
The mystery of the week was reasonably effective--Fringe is always good at wringing emotion from its audience via its guest characters, although I called Kate scratching out her equations practically from the moment Stephen Root(!) revealed the machine was based on them--but I think I didn't get the full impact of it because I was busy thinking, "Yes, but there are MORE IMPORTANT THINGS, and obviously Peter is the root cause of these time slips and BY THE WAY MORE PETER/OLIVIA PLZ." And indeed it seems Peter is the cause of them, since his presence was the only thing that allowed the couple's machine to work. Lucky for them they live in Boston, I suppose.
Astrid: This goes into your neck.
Peter: Of course it does.
Never leave us again, Peter!
Ohhhh, Walter looks way too happy about the possibility of Peter going up in a puff of smoke. :(
I loved the way Olivia kept looking at Peter all through this episode. She seemed so intrigued. It was particularly apparent in the scenes where they were at the house.
Well, I'm pretty sure Peter's theory that he's in another universe is a bust. Presumably we wouldn't have spent all this time with the Amber characters if they weren't going to be important. Also, the writers have been pretty good about only giving us two universes at a time to deal with. I'm a little annoyed that he's thinking that, because it's reasonably obvious that it's wrong and I dislike knowing that the characters' theories are going to be a bust but still having to watch them figure it out. However, the writers may yet figure out a way to make Peter partially right, I suppose...
It's the Bishop house! Yay!
Is the "Do I get an allowance?" / "I'll see what I can do" exchange also from the pilot or another early episode? It felt kind of familiar.
"She was important to you, wasn't she? I see the way you look at me when you think I'm not aware of it." Awwww. I see Olivia is no longer scared of him, I guess because she's explained away his knowledge of her as knowledge of another Olivia. You know, I think it would be interesting if everyone getting their Blueverse memories back--which I still think is going to happen, argh--is in some way dependent on believing in Blueverse, and especially on Olivia believing in Blueverse. Like, her powers have been so integral to the show, and they depend so much on a state of mind, that...I dunno, I feel like this could be used to help fix the timeline in an interesting way. Plus there was that thing with the white tulips and snow in "Subject 13," which basically seemed to say that if Olivia could imagine it, it could exist. I really don't want it to be that easy, but I think it would be cool if they used Olivia's mental abilities as part of fixing the timeline and if that fix also had something to do with perception of reality. I think there's something in Foucault about representation and subjective reality that speaks to what I'm trying to get at here, but I can't remember the term I want. Anyway, since this is Fringe, I'm reasonably certain any technology used to get back to Blueverse, in whatever way, is going to require an application of FEEEEEELINGS, so why not perception as well?
Aiiiieeee, this episode! How do they manage to pack so much awesome into one hour?
The opening was...pretty much my favorite part, yeah. So, SO glad they gave us this rather than leaving us to twist completely in the wind in re: Peter/Olivia. And it was so sweeeeeet! With them in the grass and Walter playing on the swings and and and pleeeeeeeease let this happen for real someday!
So, er, in his dreams does Peter not remember which hand a wedding ring goes on, or was there a technical reason for them to mirror the image? Whoops.
I was at first thinking it might be a memory from future!blue!timeline, but IIRC Walter was locked up by the time Peter and Olivia got married, so apparently not. I was so hoping that Olivia's dreams of Peter would've been the same as his dreams of her, but it seems not to be. Too bad.
You could really see Anna Torv transition from playing Bluelivia to Amberlivia when she said "there's a problem," couldn't you? ALL THE AWARDS.
And then Peter wakes up in his little cell. He doesn't even have a blanket! :(
Hmmm, so with the time events, are we getting to the point on Amberworld where they're going to have to go public about fringe events like Redworld did? I know they stopped what was causing these particular ones, but as Peter said, he seems to be the ultimate cause of them, and he's not going away.
"Walter's made it pretty clear he doesn't want anything to do with you." SADFACE.
Hey, look, there's some evidence of cross-universe interaction! Hee, Amber gets technology from Red. Even if it's poorly-documented.
Awww, Peter's new wardrobe just makes him look even more alone and sad in this world that doesn't remember him. As does Walter calling him "the subject." And "it"! And then snatching the book away from him! Oh, Peter.
I'd read that they wanted to return to Peter's genius roots, and I see they managed to do it this time. That was always a bit of an informed characteristic, so I'm glad they're actually making use of it.
Awww, Olivia's the Walter Whisperer now while Peter stands by and looks vaguely peeved.
Hmmm, so Peter didn't know about his appearances. I really want to know where he was and what he was doing in those three weeks between changing the timeline and showing back up. Observer hell?
ARRGGGHHH, dammit, Lincoln, why did you have to interrupt just when Peter was about to tell her they used to be together?! Go wait outside until he's finished!
"This is gonna start getting annoying." Peterrrrr, I missed your snark! Also your general working-with-Olivianess. Things feel kind of like they've gone back to normal! That was totally the missing ingredient in this universe!
Awww, Peter's stuck in the back of the car while Lincoln gets shotgun. :(
The mystery of the week was reasonably effective--Fringe is always good at wringing emotion from its audience via its guest characters, although I called Kate scratching out her equations practically from the moment Stephen Root(!) revealed the machine was based on them--but I think I didn't get the full impact of it because I was busy thinking, "Yes, but there are MORE IMPORTANT THINGS, and obviously Peter is the root cause of these time slips and BY THE WAY MORE PETER/OLIVIA PLZ." And indeed it seems Peter is the cause of them, since his presence was the only thing that allowed the couple's machine to work. Lucky for them they live in Boston, I suppose.
Astrid: This goes into your neck.
Peter: Of course it does.
Never leave us again, Peter!
Ohhhh, Walter looks way too happy about the possibility of Peter going up in a puff of smoke. :(
I loved the way Olivia kept looking at Peter all through this episode. She seemed so intrigued. It was particularly apparent in the scenes where they were at the house.
Well, I'm pretty sure Peter's theory that he's in another universe is a bust. Presumably we wouldn't have spent all this time with the Amber characters if they weren't going to be important. Also, the writers have been pretty good about only giving us two universes at a time to deal with. I'm a little annoyed that he's thinking that, because it's reasonably obvious that it's wrong and I dislike knowing that the characters' theories are going to be a bust but still having to watch them figure it out. However, the writers may yet figure out a way to make Peter partially right, I suppose...
It's the Bishop house! Yay!
Is the "Do I get an allowance?" / "I'll see what I can do" exchange also from the pilot or another early episode? It felt kind of familiar.
"She was important to you, wasn't she? I see the way you look at me when you think I'm not aware of it." Awwww. I see Olivia is no longer scared of him, I guess because she's explained away his knowledge of her as knowledge of another Olivia. You know, I think it would be interesting if everyone getting their Blueverse memories back--which I still think is going to happen, argh--is in some way dependent on believing in Blueverse, and especially on Olivia believing in Blueverse. Like, her powers have been so integral to the show, and they depend so much on a state of mind, that...I dunno, I feel like this could be used to help fix the timeline in an interesting way. Plus there was that thing with the white tulips and snow in "Subject 13," which basically seemed to say that if Olivia could imagine it, it could exist. I really don't want it to be that easy, but I think it would be cool if they used Olivia's mental abilities as part of fixing the timeline and if that fix also had something to do with perception of reality. I think there's something in Foucault about representation and subjective reality that speaks to what I'm trying to get at here, but I can't remember the term I want. Anyway, since this is Fringe, I'm reasonably certain any technology used to get back to Blueverse, in whatever way, is going to require an application of FEEEEEELINGS, so why not perception as well?
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Date: 2011-11-14 07:04 am (UTC)SOME NEFARIOUS PLOT TO INCREASE THE WORLD'S SUPPLY OF HEART-FLAVORED GELATIN? (Ew.)
He's made lots of mediocre political thrillers since then, I think, and those are just not my thing, so whenever I see him on a movie poster I'm like, "Oh. Must be a political thriller. Pass."
Ohhh, he's the Jason Bourne dude, right? Yeah, I give those a miss too. But FWIW, while this did have a political element (he plays a House rep running for election as senator), it was much more about him meeting Emily Blunt when he wasn't supposed to and
the Observersthe Adjustment Bureau trying to keep them apart in accordance with some mysterious plan that would see him become president and her a famous dancer if they weren't together. BUT THEY DEFY FATE! Naturally. (And very niftily; there's a sequence with doors all over NYC that's very cool-looking.) The characters are reasonably well-drawn, and it does a decent job exploring compromises people make at critical junctures in their lives and how those compromises ripple out, and generally it felt verrrry Fringey. Well, minus Olivia, which is a big minus, but still. I wouldn't necessarily recommend putting it at the top of your queue, but I thought it was worth two hours of my time.Where is Peter's equal-opportunity shirtlessness??
Perhaps if the show aired on Lifetime...
(Although I have been appreciating his endless parade of snug little t-shirts, lately...)
He does seem to have several, doesn't he?
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Date: 2011-11-15 01:17 am (UTC)Ewwwww.
...I just miiiiight bump The Adjustment Bureau further up my queue...
Perhaps if the show aired on Lifetime...
:::tries to imagine a Lifetime version of Fringe.... boggles:::
He does seem to have several, doesn't he?
Peter: "Broyles, thanks for the Witness Protection wardrobe, but all these shirts are half a size too small."
Broyles: "That's the only size we have in stock. You do know that the money to overnight-express a giant doomsday device to Liberty Island had to come from somewhere in the budget, right?"