Speculation

[icepixie]

These get progressively crazier as they go on.

- Daniel is Kara's father. (This isn't so much speculation as all-but-confirmed information as of the latest episode.)

- Cavil & Co. show up and there's a big space battle. (All but assured given the way they've been saving on SFX this past half-season.)

- Helo got Boomer pregnant when she tricked him into having sex with her.

- Daniel has something to do with the Opera House vision--notice that the tape Kara has is titled "Dreilide Thrace: Live at the Helice Opera House."

- Laura Roslin is NOT DEAD ARGH ARGH. Kara will give her hybrid blood and all will be well. They will have a joint vision of the Opera House and Daniel/Dreilide will make an appearance of some kind.

- Galactica herself is the dying leader who won't see the promised land. She's toast after this episode or the next. No way is she jumping again. (BTW, anyone else notice the new cracks in the word "Galactica" in the credits since the Chief discovered the hull breach? So cool.)

- Bill Adama is going to die any day now from this mysterious condition for which he pops pills, but I think he'll see the promised land first.

- There is still a promised land somewhere. The Lords of Kobol might have to get involved to help them find it.

- Hera's pattern of notes is also a starmap of some kind. I don't know where it's going to lead, but it'll lead somewhere interesting. (Olympus? The real Earth?)

- The piano player in the latest episode is another being like Head!Six and Head!Baltar. These beings are the "angels" Anders was rambling about before he went into his coma. Those who can see them are bound together in some manner. (OMG, is Kara the child Head!Six and Baltar were supposedly having way back in S1? Or even weirder--Kara is the baby that Ellen and Saul Tigh tried to have--Daniel stole her away and raised her on Caprica!)

- Some kind of encounter with the Lords of Kobol will allow all Cylons and all humans to interbreed easily. Centuries later, there are no pure humans or pure Cylons left. Resurrection doesn't work on the new hybrids...until someone who looks remarkably like Ellen Tigh develops new technology that will allow a person to download him/herself into a new body. Fade to black.

- The cycle of war and death somehow manages to stop with this generation. (This, I think is the craziest prediction of all...)

I am THOROUGHLY UNSPOILED for the final four and wish to remain that way. But please give me your thoughts on my cracked out speculations!

Comments

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I did wonder about the Boomer!Sex. How totally weird would that be?

You know, I've been wondering--and again, this may be something that happened so long ago that I've forgotten it now--why haven't they just given Laura another shot of Hera's blood? Was there a reason that I can't remember?

I've been wondering about the whole Cylon breeding thing since last year--and this is pretty cracky, but since we're sharing crack-laden ideas... Given all the God stuff with the Cylons, I found myself wondering, while looking at the Mary/Baby Jesus paintings at the National Gallery last spring, if they're mirroring that idea somehow--that the god can't reproduce in human form on its own, and therefore needs humans as part of the equation. Not really sure where to take that idea, mind, but it's been sitting in the back of my head for very nearly a year now. (After all, the Cylons magically come back from death, too!)

I'm not sure why they'd bring resurrection back, really. Not after going to such lengths to kill it. I still have trouble believing that Ellen is such a brain surgeon, but that's neither here nor there, I suppose.

I'm not sure how Kara can be the Six/Baltar kid--give me more to go on? Not sure what to think about the Tigh thing, either. It sure would explain why Tigh and Kara never got along, though--major daddy issues?

I think the Lords of Kobol getting involved would be...pushing things. Direct involvement, anyway. Indirect things like Hera's stars I could buy. Actual gods? Uh-uh.

I am trying to remember if there was ever anyone in the opera house visions who could have been Kara, and failing. Do you remember?

[caffey.livejournal.com]

why haven't they just given Laura another shot of Hera's blood? Was there a reason that I can't remember?

Word. I've been thinking about that on and off since Laura's cancer relapse, except for me that's been maybe two weeks, tops. And still I have no idea why they didn't go down that road again. Obviously, repetition would suck, but not knowing why they're not doing it sucks just as much.

[alto2.livejournal.com]

repetition would suck, but not knowing why they're not doing it sucks just as much.

Exactly. I kind of wonder, now that I think about it a bit more, if they actually NEED her to die, or nearly die, in order for the ending to work out, and thought the series would be shorter so they revived her via Hera when it wasn't? Or even if they didn't have a timing problem in terms of production, if she really needs to be this sick now, so they're just sort of ignoring that bit and hoping we've all forgotten?

[icepixie]

I did wonder about the Boomer!Sex. How totally weird would that be?

Freaky. But I'll take it if it'll debunk this ridiculous "Cylon babies can only be conceived through love" thing they've got going on.

why haven't they just given Laura another shot of Hera's blood?

That is a really good question. I guess perhaps we're meant to infer that they tried it offscreen and found it didn't work twice? Or...was the blood originally given when hera was still a fetus, or after she was born? If she still had Athena's immune system goodies swimming in her system the first time, that might have some kind of effect on the potency of her blood as a cancer cure.

Given all the God stuff with the Cylons, I found myself wondering, while looking at the Mary/Baby Jesus paintings at the National Gallery last spring, if they're mirroring that idea somehow--that the god can't reproduce in human form on its own, and therefore needs humans as part of the equation.

...Oh. I like that. In your theory, are you equating the Cylons with God, or are both Cylon and human parents being used by God to reproduce part of itself?

I'm not sure why they'd bring resurrection back, really. Not after going to such lengths to kill it.

Well, this would be many centuries in the future, when they've forgotten the earlier cycles of death and destruction. All of this has happened before... (I think Ron Moore is too much of a magnificent bastard to give us a resolution that breaks the cycle.)

I'm not sure how Kara can be the Six/Baltar kid--give me more to go on?

I was just free associating there. Unless...the Kara who came back was the kid Head!Six was talking about, and the real Kara is the dead one? I dunno. Free association, as I said.

I think the Lords of Kobol getting involved would be...pushing things. Direct involvement, anyway. Indirect things like Hera's stars I could buy. Actual gods? Uh-uh.

I still feel like we could see them somehow. They're referred to often enough as active agents in the old texts. Plus I would like to see it just 'cause it sounds neat.

I am trying to remember if there was ever anyone in the opera house visions who could have been Kara, and failing. Do you remember?

I don't really remember the opera house visions as well as I should. I recall there were lots of places where bright light obscured everything, and she might have been hiding there...

[alto2.livejournal.com]

"Cylon babies can only be conceived through love"

Egad, I must've blocked that out, 'cause egad, stupid.

I was pretty sure Hera'd been born by the time they borrowed her blood. Could be wrong, but that's how I recall it. No, never mind, just looked and Athena was still preggo.

In your theory, are you equating the Cylons with God, or are both Cylon and human parents being used by God to reproduce part of itself?

Seriously? This theory ain't that well-developed. Take it and run with it in whichever direction(s) you like. :)

I think the Kara thing just twisted my brain into a pretzel, so I'm just gonna let that one lie ;)

I guess we'll wait to see on the gods and the opera house, 'cause I don't have time to go back to review, alas. And it'll all be over soon enough...which leaves me with really mixed feelings, now that I stop and think about it. Damn.

[icepixie]

Egad, I must've blocked that out, 'cause egad, stupid.

They've been remarkably consistent about ti since Helo and Athena conceived Hera. That was the stated reason that it worked when nothing else did. And then of course there was "Deadlock," with the baby dying because Tigh and Six had a fight... *rolls eyes*

No, never mind, just looked and Athena was still preggo.

Well, I'll fanwank that explanation, then, since there are only four episodes left. :)

Seriously? This theory ain't that well-developed. Take it and run with it in whichever direction(s) you like. :)

Ooooooh.

I think the Kara thing just twisted my brain into a pretzel, so I'm just gonna let that one lie ;)

Heh heh.

And it'll all be over soon enough...which leaves me with really mixed feelings, now that I stop and think about it. Damn.

Me too. I'm hoping it goes out in a blaze of glorious storytelling, though.

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Oh, the "Deadlock" thing was just phenomenally idiotic. The Helo/Athena bit was long enough ago that I'd forgotten it, assuming I hadn't blocked it out in the first place, in a fit of "You did NOT just say something that stupid, did you?"

Let me know what you come up with if you run with that theory. I guess I was sort of figuring that the Cylons would have to be in the God position, except for the part where, if we're interpreting that image strictly, it falls apart at Athena. Yeah, that's why I said it wasn't well-developed...

Me too. I'm hoping it goes out in a blaze of glorious storytelling, though.

Me too, and I honestly suspect that it will. Just based on the mutiny episodes, we know they've still got it. I think we tend to forget that a bad episode of BSG is better than a good episode of almost anything else, so I have faith. :)

[icepixie]

I guess I was sort of figuring that the Cylons would have to be in the God position, except for the part where, if we're interpreting that image strictly, it falls apart at Athena. Yeah, that's why I said it wasn't well-developed...

Why does it fall apart at Athena? I was also thinking the Cylons would have to be God, and it works with her--she can't reproduce without Helo. (Or do you mean she's the only Cylon who's reproduced, period, so the sample size is too small?)

Me too, and I honestly suspect that it will. Just based on the mutiny episodes, we know they've still got it. I think we tend to forget that a bad episode of BSG is better than a good episode of almost anything else, so I have faith. :)

Hee. And I have been really, really into BSG since this last episode. I keep thinking about it, wondering what the last four episodes will bring, really wanting it to be Saturday...

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Why does it fall apart at Athena?

Because I'm taking it WAY more literally than you are. If the Cylon has to use the human womb as a vessel, the way that it works in that whole nativity story thang, it falls apart at Athena, 'cause she's obviously not human, and Helo's not a Cylon. I haven't come up with any other way to figure out who "god" is in that scenario, see? Toldja it wasn't a well-developed theory ;)

Is it really four episodes now, or is it three? Dammit, I will be in Florida for one of them, which will make watching difficult and being spoiled unbelievably easy...

[icepixie]

Because I'm taking it WAY more literally than you are. If the Cylon has to use the human womb as a vessel, the way that it works in that whole nativity story thang, it falls apart at Athena, 'cause she's obviously not human, and Helo's not a Cylon. I haven't come up with any other way to figure out who "god" is in that scenario, see? Toldja it wasn't a well-developed theory ;)

Ah, I see. I was definitely more loose in my interpretation.

Is it really four episodes now, or is it three? Dammit, I will be in Florida for one of them, which will make watching difficult and being spoiled unbelievably easy...

It's four episodes, but three weeks--the next two Fridays are one episode each, and March 20th is the two-hour finale. (Actually, I guess it's technically parts 2 and 3 of the finale, but whatever.) I'll be home for spring break on the 20th, so I can watch it as it airs instead of waiting until the next day! And yeah, spoilers will be hard to avoid--I'll be lj-cutting, and I'm sure most people will, but even just the number of entries people make can be a spoiler as to the impact of the episode, you know? I'd turn off the intertubes until you can watch, if it were me. :D

[alto2.livejournal.com]

the next two Fridays are one episode each, and March 20th is the two-hour finale. (Actually, I guess it's technically parts 2 and 3 of the finale, but whatever.)

OH NO THAT'S EVEN WORSE!!! I'll be at my parents' in Florida and will have a hard enough time getting one hour to watch, much less two! Aaaaaaauuuuuugggggghhhhhhh!!! Lords of Kobol Scheduling, why do you hate me so???

[icepixie]

You could stay up late and watch the second showing? (Or do you not have reliable access to a TV?)

[alto2.livejournal.com]

I could stay up, but my clock resets around Mom and Dad since they don't usually stay up as late as I do, so I'd probably sleep through half of it. TV is also a problem--there's a TV in the bedroom, but when I was there in December, it only got network stations. And if I try to watch in the family room, my parents will get pissed because they won't be able to sleep (this is a house in Florida, remember, which means lots of glass and tile. The place is a sound chamber. It's very, very difficult to get a glass of water quietly in the middle of the night; watching TV could be impossible).

Best I can probably hope for is to get Dad to record it on the DVR after we all go to sleep, but still... sigh.

[icepixie]

Are you bringing your laptop and will you have internet access? It'd be a day late, but there're always downloads...

[alto2.livejournal.com]

Yeah, that's the only other option. Definitely yes to both questions, though if it's a 2-hour finale, that's gonna be one mighty big file. Still, in theory, it can be done. And I'm already on the day-late schedule, just like you. Beats being three weeks late, for sure!

Doesn't make me any happier with the gods of scheduling, though!