Fringe: "The Day We Died"
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icepixieOH MY GOD. I HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS DESPERATE FOR THE NEXT SEASON OF SOMETHING SINCE LIKE THAT EPISODE OF THE X-FILES WHERE MULDER SUPPOSEDLY SHOT HIMSELF. WELL, OKAY, MAYBE SINCE S3 OF BSG.
I literally started gasping and yelling about how they could not POSSIBLY end it there when the Bad Robot logo came up after the Observers said that Peter had never existed. AHHHHHHHHHHH THEY HAVE TO GET HIM BACK SOMEHOW AHHHHHHHHH.
Uh, so anyway, THAT WAS INCREDIBLE AND I MUST CAPSLOCK FOR A WHILE. I had doubts about the fifteen years in the future thing, but they totally pulled it off. I figured it would probably be a vision or a warning, but didn't expect time travel to figure into it. Time loops do tend to do my head in, but I liked this one, although now I am DYING to know how they get Peter back to existing.
It was NOT FAIR that they used part of Gorecki's third symphony, because I have a Pavlovian reaction to that piece of music and always start crying when I hear it unexpectedly. On the other hand, it was fair warning that the episode would be sad sad sad. And Walternate shooting Olivia like that was both shocking and very sad, especially after that sweet, sweet scene she and Peter had together in their kitchen. At least they had fifteen years of happiness in that timeline, and got married, even if they never felt right about bringing a kid into the world. Or a "tribe of Bishops," for that matter. Oh, Peter and Olivia, I hope one day canon lets you have lots of kids.* The last episode of the series, I want a flash forward by ten years so that we can see them surrounded by three children (and Walter) at, like, a cookout or something. This NEEDS to happen, canon, do you hear me?
Peter at Olivia's funeral might have made me cry just a bit. Though Dear Hollywood, it is NEVER a good idea to have characters speaking but not to mix in the dialogue track. Ever. It always looks like a bad fanvid, no matter how exquisite the music.
Some short things, because I can't write coherent paragraphs at this point:
- Ella! Oh, I love that Ella became a Fringe agent in this timeline!
- I was expecting them to use Brad Dourif way more than they did. I mean, it's Brad freaking Dourif. Come on.
- Uh, apparently "water" is now fringe science according to the credits. Wow. I suppose that goes well with the steak-in-a-can and box o' wine Olivia and Peter were having. (With the way that wine was packaged, all plain white lettering on plain black, I expected it to say, "Table Wine by Apple." The box looked almost exactly like the one my laptop came in.)
- Awww, Olivia can control her telekinesis!
- Of COURSE there's an End of Days cult at this point.
- Senator Broyles? Whoa.
- Peter saying Walter was still his dad...oh, my heart. And I loved how he was still kind of pissed that Walter had been put in jail, and how much he obviously loved him. He still called Walternate "Father," but you could tell it was just because he was trying to stop him.
- And oh, Walter: "I always did want a daughter." Oh, Bishops and Dunhams.
- On a shallow note, Olivia was rocking the shorter hair. I hope she gets it cut that way for S4. I liked Astrid's hair too, although I like her current hair better. And Nina's hat at the funeral was pretty cool.
- So Bell didn't bury the pieces of the machine? Okay. I've thought for a while that there was going to be some finagling of the timeline, but I didn't think it would extend to Walter scattering the pieces of the machine, or to him/all of them actually being the First People. I figured the Observers would be those guys, and they would write the book/make the drawings based on the events of these episodes.
- Everyone facing down their alternate at the end was AWESOME. I've been waiting for this all season.
Basically, this was the BEST EPISODE OF THE SHOW EVER. Is it September yet?
* Preferably before you're 47 and 46, respectively, because even though everyone in this timeline obviously had taken some kind of rejuvenating drug, that still seems a little old for more than maybe one kid. Menopause only waits so long.
I literally started gasping and yelling about how they could not POSSIBLY end it there when the Bad Robot logo came up after the Observers said that Peter had never existed. AHHHHHHHHHHH THEY HAVE TO GET HIM BACK SOMEHOW AHHHHHHHHH.
Uh, so anyway, THAT WAS INCREDIBLE AND I MUST CAPSLOCK FOR A WHILE. I had doubts about the fifteen years in the future thing, but they totally pulled it off. I figured it would probably be a vision or a warning, but didn't expect time travel to figure into it. Time loops do tend to do my head in, but I liked this one, although now I am DYING to know how they get Peter back to existing.
It was NOT FAIR that they used part of Gorecki's third symphony, because I have a Pavlovian reaction to that piece of music and always start crying when I hear it unexpectedly. On the other hand, it was fair warning that the episode would be sad sad sad. And Walternate shooting Olivia like that was both shocking and very sad, especially after that sweet, sweet scene she and Peter had together in their kitchen. At least they had fifteen years of happiness in that timeline, and got married, even if they never felt right about bringing a kid into the world. Or a "tribe of Bishops," for that matter. Oh, Peter and Olivia, I hope one day canon lets you have lots of kids.* The last episode of the series, I want a flash forward by ten years so that we can see them surrounded by three children (and Walter) at, like, a cookout or something. This NEEDS to happen, canon, do you hear me?
Peter at Olivia's funeral might have made me cry just a bit. Though Dear Hollywood, it is NEVER a good idea to have characters speaking but not to mix in the dialogue track. Ever. It always looks like a bad fanvid, no matter how exquisite the music.
Some short things, because I can't write coherent paragraphs at this point:
- Ella! Oh, I love that Ella became a Fringe agent in this timeline!
- I was expecting them to use Brad Dourif way more than they did. I mean, it's Brad freaking Dourif. Come on.
- Uh, apparently "water" is now fringe science according to the credits. Wow. I suppose that goes well with the steak-in-a-can and box o' wine Olivia and Peter were having. (With the way that wine was packaged, all plain white lettering on plain black, I expected it to say, "Table Wine by Apple." The box looked almost exactly like the one my laptop came in.)
- Awww, Olivia can control her telekinesis!
- Of COURSE there's an End of Days cult at this point.
- Senator Broyles? Whoa.
- Peter saying Walter was still his dad...oh, my heart. And I loved how he was still kind of pissed that Walter had been put in jail, and how much he obviously loved him. He still called Walternate "Father," but you could tell it was just because he was trying to stop him.
- And oh, Walter: "I always did want a daughter." Oh, Bishops and Dunhams.
- On a shallow note, Olivia was rocking the shorter hair. I hope she gets it cut that way for S4. I liked Astrid's hair too, although I like her current hair better. And Nina's hat at the funeral was pretty cool.
- So Bell didn't bury the pieces of the machine? Okay. I've thought for a while that there was going to be some finagling of the timeline, but I didn't think it would extend to Walter scattering the pieces of the machine, or to him/all of them actually being the First People. I figured the Observers would be those guys, and they would write the book/make the drawings based on the events of these episodes.
- Everyone facing down their alternate at the end was AWESOME. I've been waiting for this all season.
Basically, this was the BEST EPISODE OF THE SHOW EVER. Is it September yet?
* Preferably before you're 47 and 46, respectively, because even though everyone in this timeline obviously had taken some kind of rejuvenating drug, that still seems a little old for more than maybe one kid. Menopause only waits so long.
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Date: 2011-05-07 03:02 am (UTC)I have things to do this weekend, but all I want to do now is sit and watch this episode OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I love when they use science fiction like this--they told a fucking AWESOME story. A real, moving, human story about love and sacrifice and they utilized old school science fiction in order to do it. OH MY GOD, SHOW!
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Date: 2011-05-07 03:38 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-07 06:45 am (UTC)I am currently drunk. We're driving home from a friend's birthday party. I just drunkenly explained to Jon that they'll bring Peter back because "Joshua Jackson is the only one from Dawson's fucking Creek that is doing anything right now. Somehow, this makes sense in my head.
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Date: 2011-05-07 03:40 pm (UTC)Of course they're gonna bring Peter back. It just might take a little while of him existing in Observer limbo-land. ;) (P.S. One of the producers tweeted that JJ has a contract for season four, so that's a relief.)
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Date: 2011-05-07 04:13 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-05-08 02:52 am (UTC)My sister complained about Brad Dourif being wasted, and I just assumed that he's going to be a Big Bad in S4 and this was like some kind of reverse introduction, so when he pops up in like 4x03 we'll all be like OOO HE'S THAT ONE GUY. If that doesn't happen I'll be surprised, because seriously, that was not that much of a role.
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Date: 2011-05-08 05:14 am (UTC)Yep.
It occurred to me after writing up my reaction that Brad Dourif might get a larger role in S4, although given that the timeline he was important to no longer exists, I'm curious how they're going to work him in. Maybe he's going to tempt assorted characters into re-creating that timeline when they're supposed to be working together to save both universes.
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Date: 2011-06-09 02:48 am (UTC)noooooooo!
no, please.
Peter back, please.
nooooo!
sadness.
It was SO GOOD right up until they un-existed Peter, and then there was trauma! Well, there was one slow bit, when Walternate('s hologram) was talking forever and it occurred to me that then would be a good time to pause it and get some pie, butbutbut then Olivia died and I couldn't enjoy my pie anymore. : (
but didn't expect time travel to figure into it.
Just when you think this is a totally different show, it gets LOST-y again!
although now I am DYING to know how they get Peter back to existing.
butbutbut without Peter the universes never break in the first place and everything is all right and it's actually good for everybody except for poor Olivia and her happiness noooooooooooo!
Or a "tribe of Bishops," for that matter.
Awwwwwwwwwww. ("Are you really going to try to use a little girl's drawing to get lucky?" / "It sounds so dirty when you say it like that!" BWAH.)
Peter at Olivia's funeral might have made me cry just a bit.
I was starting to get a little misty, but then when Peter lit her casket on fire and pushed it out into the harbor I may have cracked up, because FUCK YEAH VIKINGS!!! EVEN OLIVIA'S FUNERAL IS BADASS!!! I was just so proud of her.
it is NEVER a good idea to have characters speaking but not to mix in the dialogue track. Ever. It always looks like a bad fanvid, no matter how exquisite the music.
Lol, trust me, if you tend to avoid fanvids, then it actually works quite nicely.
I mean, it's Brad freaking Dourif.
Oh! That's who that was! I was trying to place him!
Uh, apparently "water" is now fringe science according to the credits.
I missed that! Was it powdered?
Awww, Olivia can control her telekinesis!
Awwww, she's all growed up!
Oh, Bishops and Dunhams.
So much!
Menopause only waits so long.
Lol, I think after you've saved a couple universes, there's probably some science left over to negotiate with menopause.
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Date: 2011-06-09 09:48 pm (UTC)It was SO GOOD right up until they un-existed Peter, and then there was trauma!
I don't think I was traumatized, exactly, because we all know they'd never kill off Peter for real, not even withstanding the fact that the creators tweeted about Josh Jackson having a full contract for next season. But I'm extremely curious about how they're going to bring him back, and where they're going to go from there. So many possibilities!
And if they don't converge on him and Olivia staying together and having a tribe of Bishops I will be very sad!Well, there was one slow bit, when Walternate('s hologram) was talking forever and it occurred to me that then would be a good time to pause it and get some pie, butbutbut then Olivia died and I couldn't enjoy my pie anymore.
Awwwwwwwww.
Just when you think this is a totally different show, it gets LOST-y again!
Nooooooooooooo! I guess I should've known something was up when Walter mentioned dinosaurs early on in the episode...
butbutbut without Peter the universes never break in the first place and everything is all right and it's actually good for everybody except for poor Olivia and her happiness noooooooooooo!
Well, except for the part where they're all in a room with their alternates and the Olivias definitely both had their murderfaces on, anyway...
"Are you really going to try to use a little girl's drawing to get lucky?" / "It sounds so dirty when you say it like that!"
Tee hee!
I was starting to get a little misty, but then when Peter lit her casket on fire and pushed it out into the harbor I may have cracked up, because FUCK YEAH VIKINGS!!! EVEN OLIVIA'S FUNERAL IS BADASS!!! I was just so proud of her.
Ahahahahah, yeeeeah, that may have been just a smidge over the top. But awesomely so!
Oh! That's who that was! I was trying to place him!
Indeed!
I missed that! Was it powdered?
It may have been, but I meant just that "water" was one of the words in the credits, where they list various types of fringe science. (The steak in a can, though, that was special. As was the table wine in a suspiciously Apple-designed box...)
Lol, I think after you've saved a couple universes, there's probably some science left over to negotiate with menopause.
Or maybe Olivia is just so badass that menopause took one look at her and ran away.
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Date: 2011-06-11 01:57 am (UTC)FLAILFLAILFLAILFLAILFLAIL
But I'm extremely curious about how they're going to bring him back, and where they're going to go from there.
FLAAAAAAAAAAIL
And if they don't converge on him and Olivia staying together and having a tribe of Bishops I will be very sad!
IT IS ALREADY CANON THAT THEY HAVE TO BE TOGETHER OR THE WORLD WILL END SO THERE.
(Awww, both Bishops were all, "What??? No Olivia??? This is the very worst of all possible worlds!! We must alter the time-space continuum and get her back!! Um, right, yes, those giant holes being ripped in the universe, that's not so hot either I guess, but NO OLIVIA!?!")
I guess I should've known something was up when Walter mentioned dinosaurs early on in the episode...
I was just so busy imagining Walter going all Jurassic Park in his lab that I missed the plot connection...
the Olivias definitely both had their murderfaces on, anyway...
Bwah! Olivias are definitely good at murderface, yes.
that may have been just a smidge over the top. But awesomely so!
I'm for it! If you're gonna try to stand out from every other tv funeral, giant barbaric torches are a good option.
he's going to play a larger part in S4, because otherwise, why get Brad Dourif?
That's true, surely Dourif can score better than a bit part.
but I meant just that "water" was one of the words in the credits, where they list various types of fringe science.
Yeah, I missed it when I watched. But didn't somebody mention "powdered water" at one point? Was it one of Bell's weird projects?
Or maybe Olivia is just so badass that menopause took one look at her and ran away.
"Why hello, I'm here to- EEEEEEEP! Um, never mind! Sorry! Wrong ovaries! I'll just, ummm come by in a few more years? Or twenty! How about twenty??" ::::scurries::::
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Date: 2011-06-11 08:05 pm (UTC)TOTALLY.
(Awww, both Bishops were all, "What??? No Olivia??? This is the very worst of all possible worlds!! We must alter the time-space continuum and get her back!! Um, right, yes, those giant holes being ripped in the universe, that's not so hot either I guess, but NO OLIVIA!?!")
A world without Olivia is definitely the worst of all possible worlds. ALL OF THEM.
I was just so busy imagining Walter going all Jurassic Park in his lab that I missed the plot connection...
I can just see Walter growing miniature dinosaurs. Like hamsters, only they'll rip your flesh off!
I'm for it! If you're gonna try to stand out from every other tv funeral, giant barbaric torches are a good option.
Indeed, indeed.
That's true, surely Dourif can score better than a bit part.
Seriously. I mean, he doesn't just appear to be vaguely evil in a bit part. He's got to be specifically and evilly evil in a big part. It's expected.
Yeah, I missed it when I watched. But didn't somebody mention "powdered water" at one point? Was it one of Bell's weird projects?
I wouldn't be surprised if someone did mention it.
"Why hello, I'm here to- EEEEEEEP! Um, never mind! Sorry! Wrong ovaries! I'll just, ummm come by in a few more years? Or twenty! How about twenty??" ::::scurries::::
Although if I were her, I have to admit I'd welcome it. Being bleurgy and crampy two days out of every month would put a cramp in my style if I were an FBI Agent of Awesome.
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Date: 2011-06-12 10:02 pm (UTC)SCIENCE SAYS SO.
I can just see Walter growing miniature dinosaurs. Like hamsters, only they'll rip your flesh off!
Awwwwwwww, I want one!!
Although if I were her, I have to admit I'd welcome it
I dunno, the horror stories and whining I've heard from menopausal coworkers leads me to believe that while post-menopause might be convenient, getting there is an ordeal.
Being bleurgy and crampy two days out of every month would put a cramp in my style if I were an FBI Agent of Awesome.
PMS: One more thing that Olivia has CONQUERED.